Swine Flu: Connecting the Dots

Google SQUALENE – it’s a possible ingredient in the swine flu shot. Go have a look at what is going on in London around these mandatory swine flu shots. Wake up and smell the world de-population plan soon to be enacted on America by your friendly neighborhood federal government, fema, secretly federalized police who are now armed to the teeth with military salvage weaponry, the WHO agenda, and the CDC.

Can you think of a logical reason that the CDC in Atlanta needs to own a half million polyguard coffin liners housed at a REX 84 USA FEMA concentration camp in north Georgia? Can you think of a logical reason that Baxter International would patent a swine flu vaccine last year months before swine flu actually appeared as if by magic in Mexico?

Does it make sense to you that scientists have noted that the construction of the swine flu virus from a combined 3 or 4 other viruses, including the original Spanish flu strain from 1918, that had to be carved off an Inuit Eskimo’s cadaver tissue, making it quite apparent that the virus was actually concocted in a laboratory? A la Frankenstein science?

Me neither. Think, people, think. Don’t be the WHO’s lab rats – and don’t your kids or our enlisted US military be their lab rats anymore either.

Demand answers, not evasive actions, from the FEDS and the CDC.

Connect the dots. Who stands to earn a fortune from manufacturing and selling the vaccine? Follow the money. Try not to follow the yellow brick road of denial that leads to being forced at gunpoint to stand in line this fall for your killer swine flu vaccine, laced with SQUALENE. Wake up Dorothy, you are not in Kansas anymore.

In fact, the USA program will begin with 12,000 kids in Oklahoma this fall.Do what you need to do. – Signing off.. CKH, exhausted, disgusted, good bye.

(7.28.2009 7:00 am  Please read addendum and site salvage docs at the end of this news update.)

WHO & CDC World De-population Plan Under Guise of  Mandatory Swine Flu Vaccinations Exposed – The Vaccinations Can Kill  – Oklahoma Children Are the 1st Test Targets – Don’t Let Your Child be a Guinea Pig for Swine Flu Shot! Parents Make Plans for Protecting Your Children – Say NO to Mandatory Vaccines


World Health Organization Moves in Secret to Proceed with Mandatory Global Swine Flu Vaccinations

More Background on Baxter International, The REAL Origins of Swine Flu and NWO Bio-terrorism Disguised As Mandatory Vaccinations

See also http://alligatorfarm.wordpress.com front page


Charlotte NC: Obama Supporters Try to Close Down Shop Owner Because He Disagrees with Obamanation Politics – Free Speech at Stake

Obama Slammed As Racist By Israelis at Jerusalem Rally

World Net Daily to Produce Feature Length Documentary on the Issue of Obama’s Birth & Eligibility for Office

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7.28.2009 This morning journalist Jane Burgermeister’s blog on WordPress went AWOL.  It had either been archived or was removed. Jane was in the process of urgently trying to warn people avout what she knew and she was suing the federal government and the WHO along with Baxter International for engineering a bio-terrorism agent – the swine flu virus.

She knew about the WHO’s philosophy on de-population, and population reduction.

In London, mass protests to the mandatory flu vaccines have been censored. They have also taken away all UK handguns.


I think Jane knows too much and she is scared. I don”t know what has happened. I had several pages of it in my web cache from yesterday – here are as many pages as I could save. Copy this info off  – go to the links in these essays – copy them off – and save it to HD or CD.

Someone wants to stop Jane from proceeding with her lawsuit against the WHO and they want to stop her from continuing to publish what she knows about Swine flu. Please please urgent that you share this info with as many USA families and overseas as possible.

They intend to instate mandatoryu flu vaccines this fall – those vaccines can kill. See my other reports under BIRD FLU 666, FEMA COFFINS, SWINE FLU GENOCIDE, & URGENT BREAKING NEWS, and this blog’s HOME page at






Stay smart and stay safe. – CKH

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Former high-level Bush financial insider says “swine flu” vaccine part of depopulation agenda

By birdflu666

Catherine Austin Fitts, an investment banker and high level government official in the 1st Bush administration, writes in her blog that she believes the H1N1 “swine flu” vaccine is part of a population reduction agenda.

She also analyses the way the international, offshore banking “elite” have plundered the US and (other) economies, impoverishing millions, if not billions, by their crime spree, corruption and greed.

The political and social problems that arise when a small group rob and impoverish a state by their inordinate greed are discussed in Plato’s book, the Republic, sections 8-9. Plato notes that when a state is mismanaged, exploited and ruined by a materially minded clique (timocracy), there will inevitably be many poverty-stricken people resulting in increasing social breakdown and chaos. These impoverished people pose a threat to the corrupt rulers, and they will therefore try to dispose of them by the imposition of ever greater force followed by mass murder (tyranny).

Plato’s analysis of the roots of a state’s decline appears in some respects to be a pretty accurate description of the events unfolding before our eyes in the USA today: the international criminal “financiers” of WHO and the UN, who have destroyed the US economy and just robbed it of 14 trillions in a “bailout” fund for Wall St Banks, now need to use UN troops and WHO killer vaccines to deal with the people of the USA that they have impoverished by their crimes.

Thomas Jefferson, one of the framers of the US Constitution, admired Plato and carried his books around with him wherever he went, it’s been said. I can see why. I also think Plato’s “Republic” is a as good a description as any around today of the political history of the USA from the high ideals of the Founding Fathers to the gradual descent into total corruption by the “rulers” or, in this case. the “President”, “Senate” and “Congress” in the past few years.

When elements of the federal and state government either actively plan or allow the take-over and mass murder of their own people through “UN troop exercises” and “FEMA/Homeland Security” drills and “mass forced vaccinations” with “bioweapons” because they would prefer mass murder of the victims of their crimes to being put in goal, then the “culture in charge” truly is “dark” are Catherine Austin Fitts says.

The time has now come to remove these “dark” and degenerate elements and restore the Constitution, Democracy and the Rule of Law, to rebuild a sound economic and education system that works for the liberty, prosperity and happiness of the people as Thomas Jefferson and the Founding Fathers envisioned. A sould political, social, health and economic system needs to be rebuilt in Europe, Africa and other countries just as urgently.

“I believe one of the goals of the swine flu vaccine is depopulation. Perhaps it is the goal of a swine flu epidemic as well, whether bio-warfare or hype around a flu season,” writes Austin Fitts on her blog.


“As trillions of dollars were shifted out of America by legal and illegal means to reinvest in Asia and emerging markets and to build a global military empire, we left a sovereign nation economic model behind. Finally, the expense and corruption of empire resulted in bailouts of $12-14 trillion, delivering a new financial war chest to the people leading the financial engineering. Now we have exploding unemployment, an exploding federal deficit, an Inspector General for the TARP bailout program predicting that the ultimate bailout cost could rise to $23.7 trillion and a Congressional Budget Director who is concluding that we can no longer afford the social safety net.

That is, unless you change the actuarial assumptions in the budget – like life expectancy. Lowering immune systems and increasing toxicity levels combined with poor food, water and terrorizing stress will help do the trick. Review the history of vaccines rushed into production without proper testing and peer review – it is clear about the potential side effects. In addition, a plague can so frighten and help control people that they will accept the end of their current benefits (and the resulting implications to life expectancy) without objection. And a plague with proper planning can be highly profitable. Whatever the truth of what swine flu and related vaccines are, it can be used as a way to keep control in a situation that is quickly shifting out of control.

In short, an epidemic can be used to offset the inflation of capital with increasing deflation of the value and income of labor and continual demand destruction. It is a great deal of time and money spent on something that will not help build a real economy. The disinformation and control opportunities are profound. They keep the slow burn going. It is the next, meaner face of “the establishment against the rest of society.”

That’s what I believe. I am not an expert. I have no case worth presenting in a court of law. There are hundreds of hours of research on the swine flu and related vaccines that I have not done and I am not going to do. It is just what I believe, listening to the people I respect, and in no small part because if you map out all the financial ecosystems around the issue and people and incentives involved, it seems to me to be the logical conclusion.

Now, if this sounds ludicrous to you, it may be because you do not appreciate how dark the culture has become that is now in charge. Do you have any idea how impossibly frustrating it is to manage a highly centralized system in which the vast majority of people lack any responsibility to ensure that the whole thing works? Everyone wants their free lunch and there are no real markets or democracy to force accountability or a shared intelligence. Force works. Force has increasingly become the way to achieve most everything. Using force is a lot easier that living with rising risk and the costs of subsidizing an aging population.

So the question for you and me is “what do we do?” Are we going to take a vaccine? Are we going to allow our children to be vaccinated? Will we have a choice? How can we organize to make sure that we do? Is self-quarantine a practical option? How would we prepare for it?

What you believe is your responsibility. The time has come to build time into Summer schedules to research options, discuss them with those you trust and make informed decisions about what you believe and what actions you intend to take under a variety of scenarios.

I don’t have the answers yet. Somehow, I believe we can find them together. And while we do, let’s remember to pray for the love of humanity to be rekindled and nourished in each and every heart.

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2 Responses to “Former high-level Bush financial insider says “swine flu” vaccine part of depopulation agenda”

  1. sosMsos Says:
    July 26, 2009 at 10:00 am | Reply

“That’s what I believe. I am not an expert. I have no case worth presenting
in a court of law. There are hundreds of hours of research on the swine flu and related vaccines that I have not done and I am not going to do. ”

You will have to do that, to dig out the truth, and to stop that vaccination is being used to depopulate. THis old dogma of immunization that just doesntz work has to be cleard , people/ politicians, have to get enlightet about this in what they blindly believe. The whole virology is build around postulates that have never been proofed for nearly 100 years, and cant be proofed.
This whole pseudo science virology is just there to justify all the contradictions it creates.
Why do retroviruses in the 70th were invented? Cause Genetic science was build until then then, on the believe that the DNA in a cell is some kind of static thing. THat only RNA can be generated from DNA not the way round! But evolutionary Genetics has prooven that there was at first RNA from which DNA was recreated. And this they have observed in the 70th that RNA is transcribed back into DNA , the reverse transcription. And they had to invent an exceptional rule to protect the world of science they worked for. And that exception rule was that this RNA was not from the host organizm itself, but from a exogenic virus that invade the cell, breeds there and destroys it. Never peen proven.
So when they tried to explain cancer through a vrius infection, they observed that there was reverse transcription going on in the whole body all over the place, and when they tried to stop it, they must admit that this had not any influence on the cancer. So they quickly had to give up this idea.

But then this drug was taken out of the drawer again with birdflue, as a anti-retroviral drug. It stops the enzyme reverse protease to transcribe RNA back into DNA, which is a repair process, obsrved in phyto planktons that thoses RNA material “viruses” live in coexistence with the cells and it has never been observed that they do something harmful.

So infact Tamiflue prevents the organsim, the DNA of the cells from repairing himself/ itself.

there can be discovered so many frauds in that pseudoscience virology based on:
arbitrariness of symptoms
arbitrariness of diagnosis
arbitrariness of detection methods/ test methods, (CPR, lol is not even reccomended from the designer for virus virus deseases diagnosis, chk how they proceed there, for quantitative ananlysis, they use a multiplicational analysis tool..)

the way of reproduction (virus morphology based on the chicken embry modell , lol still in use ck what is done there and how they try to justyfy it what they do there, lol)
and much more…

Its time that pople get enlightened about this leathal fraud, that has always been used to kill people.
Goethe wrote in Faust 300 years ago:

“Here was the medicine, the patients died and nobody asked who recovered, thus we have ravaged with infernal Latwerges, in these valleys, these mountains, much worse than the pest, I myself have given the poison to thousands, they withered away, I must witness that the unabashed murderers are praised.”

And its still the same world, the unabashed murderers the practitioneers are praised. This has to be stopped, if you can stop tthat medicine is being misused for politics, then politics has a chance to recover.

“The domination of the Pseudo-Science must be overcome by means of a Social science which is characterized by its obligation to truthfulness and by the possibility to verify it and to control its actions. The language of the present university medical science reveals that in it, an uncontrolled democratically-lawfully prevailing orthodoxy stands in the foreground, when the Orthodox Medicine Practitioners and the State are referring, as justification for their actions, to the dominant opinion of medical science to which we supposedly have to submit even if this prevailing orthodoxy maintains that the babies are brought by the stork or that the earth is flat. We have however no reason to complain. It is us who tolerate this Governmental behavior. Anyway, nobody should wonder, if he continues to accept that we must surrender ourselves to this prevailing orthodoxy. as we are doing now faced with the absurdity of the Bird Flu allegations, if he then wakes up one morning and with horror realizes that he is dead. Killed by that prevailing orthodoxy which he as a citizen of a democratic state built on law has tolerated. In a democratic state built on law, the bird flu panic would be just as impossible as would AIDS and vaccinations. We the citizens must create the constitutional state. Then not only AIDS but also the pseudoscience and the bird flu will have no chance. I can only say: Check things out! Use your reason!”
Dr. Stefan Lanka


  1. sosMsos Says:
    July 26, 2009 at 10:36 am | Reply

PS: it has been taken 100 years to finally convince orthodox medicine that amalgam is harmfull and not being used anymore, just only 15 years ago every dentist would have loughed about this claim and would argue there is no desease that stays in direct relation to mercury as its cause, ” sure not in THAT direct relation what orthodox medicine understands as being the cause for a desease. Only cancer and germs are cause for a desease in their world what in fact isnt true at all.

I mean this germ fraud is already going on 100 years, i dont want to wait another 100 years though i feel we are so close to it to recover this to the whole world population, having this powerful informational tools like the internet! And you are so close to do that! If you wont be able to recover this fraud in combination with you investigations dealing with “the new world order” crime then there is the chance that its gonna been misused over and over again…

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Swine Flu: What I Believe

Catherine, Daily Musings, Financial Permaculture and News & Commentary,

July 22, 2009 at 10:07 am

I believe one of the goals of the swine flu vaccine is depopulation. Perhaps it is the goal of a swine flu epidemic as well, whether bio-warfare or hype around a flu season.

These days, I keep remembering my sense of urgency leaving the Bush Administration in 1991. We had to do something to turn around the economy and gather real assets behind retirement plans and the social safety net. If not, Americans could find themselves deeply out on a limb. I felt my family and friends were in danger. They did not share my concern. They had a deep faith in the system.

As my efforts to find ways of reengineering government investment in communities failed to win political support, Washington and Wall Street moved forward with a debt bubble and globalization that was horrifying in its implications for humanity.

Overwhelmed by what was happening, I estimated the end result. My simple calculations guessed that we were going to achieve economic sustainability on Earth by depopulating down to a population of approximately 500 million people from our then current global population of 6 billion.  I was a portfolio strategist used to looking at numbers from a very high level. Those around me could not fathom how all the different threads I was integrating could lead to such a conclusion.  To me, we had to have radical change in how we governed resources or depopulate. It was a mathematical result.

A year later, in 1999, a very capable investment and portfolio strategist asked me if he could come have a private lunch with me in Washington. We sat in a posh restaurant across from the Capitol. He said quietly that he had calculated out where the derivatives and debt bubble combined with globalization were going. The only logical conclusion he could reach was that significant depopulation was going to occur. He said his estimates led to an approximate population of 500 million. I said very quietly, “that’s my estimate too.” I will never forget the look of sadness that crossed his face.  I was amazed to find someone else who understood.

It turns out that we were not alone. Sir James Goldsmith had warned of the consequences of GATT in 1994. He described the process under way, involving the loss of land and livelihood for 3 billion people, “…This is the establishment against the rest of society.”  Voices were rising around the planet as hardships exploded from global economic warfare and industrialization of agriculture.

As trillions of dollars were shifted out of America by legal and illegal means to reinvest in Asia and emerging markets and to build a global military empire, we left a sovereign nation economic model behind. Finally, the expense and corruption of empire resulted in bailouts of $12-14 trillion, delivering a new financial war chest to the people leading the financial engineering. Now we have exploding unemployment, an exploding federal deficit, an Inspector General for the TARP bailout program predicting that the ultimate bailout cost could rise to $23.7 trillion and a Congressional Budget Director who is concluding that we can no longer afford the social safety net.

That is, unless you change the actuarial assumptions in the budget – like life expectancy. Lowering immune systems and increasing toxicity levels combined with poor food, water and terrorizing stress will help do the trick. Review the history of vaccines rushed into production without proper testing and peer review – it is clear about the potential side effects. In addition, a plague can so frighten and help control people that they will accept the end of their current benefits (and the resulting implications to life expectancy) without objection. And a plague with proper planning can be highly profitable. Whatever the truth of what swine flu and related vaccines are, it can be used as a way to keep control in a situation that is quickly shifting out of control.

In short, an epidemic can be used to offset the inflation of capital with increasing deflation of the value and income of labor and continual demand destruction. It is a great deal of time and money spent on something that will not help build a real economy. The disinformation and control opportunities are profound. They keep the slow burn going. It is the next, meaner face of “the establishment against the rest of society.”

That’s what I believe. I am not an expert. I have no case worth presenting in a court of law. There are hundreds of hours of research on the swine flu and related vaccines that I have not done and I am not going to do. It is just what I believe, listening to the people I respect, and in no small part because if you map out all the financial ecosystems around the issue and people and incentives involved, it seems to me to be the  logical conclusion.

Now, if this sounds ludicrous to you, it may be because you do not appreciate how dark the culture has become that is now in charge. Do you have any idea how impossibly frustrating it is to manage a highly centralized system in which the vast majority of people lack any responsibility to ensure that the whole thing works? Everyone wants their free lunch and there are no real markets or democracy to force accountability or a shared intelligence. Force works. Force has increasingly become the way to achieve most everything. Using force is a lot easier that living with rising risk and the costs of subsidizing an aging population.

So the question for you and me is “what do we do?” Are we going to take a vaccine? Are we going to allow our children to be vaccinated?  Will we have a choice? How can we organize to make sure that we do? Is self-quarantine a practical option? How would we prepare for it?

What you believe is your responsibility. The time has come to build time into Summer schedules to research options, discuss them with those you trust and make informed decisions about what you believe and what actions you intend to take under a variety of scenarios.

I don’t have the answers yet. Somehow, I believe we can find them together. And while we do, let’s remember to pray for the love of humanity to be rekindled and nourished in each and every heart.

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  1. 1 Greg Brooks-English

Jul 21st, 2009 at 4:34 am

I spoke with my wife about the possibility of a mass depopulation campaign and what we would have to do to avoid it considering our options. Do we sell our house and move into the countryside and live like hermits stockpiling provisions to wait for the day of deliverance?

These are such frightening things to contemplate for me.

Firstly, I think a mass depopulation campaign is highly improbable because of internet communication, text messaging, being able to make people aware quickly of what is happening. However, if I were head of any depopulation campaign (I get sick at the thought), the bioweapon would have to be slow acting, meaning it didn’t show symptoms for at least ten days, giving it time to spread far and wide. The designer would create the virus and a vaccine to counteract it. The vaccine would be HIGHLY desirable if you wanted to survive, and the vaccine would only be available to special sectors of the population, i.e. in 1st world nations, namely in the US and client regimes. Some vaccines would not work effectively, by design, and given to sensitive populations. The only way to avoid would be to either get the vaccine somehow or to isolate yourself from society so as not to be in contact with anyone to get it in the first place.

After my wife considered this, she said point-blank, “I think I’d just rather die.”

So what now?

  1. 2 Mike

Jul 21st, 2009 at 6:26 am

I too have been thinking about the following: Why are governments forecasting swine flu deaths so early and more pronounced than they have prior to swine flu? Do they really care that much about us to “help” us out? Why would they be working so tirelessly on a vaccine on a flu that has killed far less than the “normal” flu that comes around every year?

It all just seems odd to me and that’s what is disconcerting!

  1. 3 Edward

Jul 21st, 2009 at 6:53 am

On the regular news channel they were saying America could only get enough vaccinations for 20% of the population. Usually in flu season they recommend vaccines for the most susceptible, like the elderly. I expect it will be voluntary unless your under managed care. Still maybe voluntary in managed care but with the health care workers and patients “educated” in swine flu.

  1. 4 LPH

Jul 21st, 2009 at 7:02 am

I largely agree with you, Catherine. The only thing each person can do is think and act for his or her self. And offer an informed opinion to others, as you do, on what appears to be really happening. Those who choose to listen with an open and fearless heart will try to educate and protect themselves.

  1. 5 Brian

Jul 21st, 2009 at 10:45 am

My view is that we have more to worry about with the cure than the disease.

Read this:

Mass media propaganda and that’s about it. I live in Japan and when I read this and saw that picture I laughed out loud. Japanese wear those masks all the time–swine flu or not–it’s a social obligation even if you have a sniffle.

No one I know here is talking about the swine flu–the economy yes, but not the US Army invention of swine flu.

Do you want to protect yourself? Buy some organic, non-filtered apple cider vinegar and mix 2 big table spoons with 8oz water and drink it down 2 – 3 times a day. I’ve done this for years and never get sick. I love the stuff and drink it whenever I’m at home. Braggs is my choice. The Japanese know this trick too but they drink black vinegar–you can buy little tetra packs of the stuff at 7/11 here. The Japanese understand healthy food and drink.

(Yes, the 7/11s in Japan actually sell healthy things–weird isn’t it? Why do the Japanese take our franchises and make them so much better? Do Americans just hate themselves and others? I’ll never understand it….)

  1. 6 michael

Jul 21st, 2009 at 10:49 am

with all due respect, I generally agree with your point of view and i am a daily reader and think your blog is one of the best on the web but…where does the 500 million figure come from? air food and water are what we really need to survive. the earth can produce much more food than current levels. one of the greatest chalenges to our food supply, is not the earth’s ability to provide food, but rather human greed that manipulates commodity prices and fuels cold wars and economic warfare… the Japanese make food out of seaweed and although the prospect is not exciting at least we can survive on seaweed, if we have to. If we have to, we can boil enough water to survive on.

my 2 cents on the swine flu- it’s another fast buck artist trying to sell their new vaccine that a’just happened’ to come out before the quote unquote epidemic.

Here are just a couple of links that explain why i think this is so-
1. http://www.beyondchron.org/articles/Swine_Flu_and_the_CIA_6865.html
The story first appeared January 10, 1977 on the front page of the San Francisco Chronicle. It talks about how Castro had to kill all the pigs in Cuba because the of the CIA germ warfare.

2. just google “Spanish flu caused by vaccine” and you will find volumes, but the point is the current flu has has elements of both spanish flu and swine flu, somehow jumbled up reconfigurated, attenuated, coagulated, monkeyed with!! NEW! IMPROVED! And isn’t it strange that health ministers in Indonesia and the Czech Republic, of all places, are both complaining about free samples from an American Pharma Conglom… the free samples have had deadly results and OOps they just can’t understand how it got in the free sample…

well maybe they are trying to kill us all but i for one will not be vaccinated until they strap me in the chair… and until then i will just keep on bloggin, so there!

  1. 7 catherine

Jul 21st, 2009 at 11:08 am


You need to study livestock management — managing living beings based on probabilities and actuarial assumptions. Perhaps a combination of large insurance risk and livestock management. Depopulation can be slow and managed or fast. We are generally looking at slow and managed.

The notion of lowering vibrational level and physical and mental power is very real and important to “field” management. Such field management is absolutely essential for a few to manage many in a model in which knowledge and technology must be hidden in a population that has natural psychic and telepathic gifts and the ability to communicate through resonance through the electromagnetic field — like birds or other swarming, herd animals.

If you study instances of large, intentional genocides or depopulation through history, what you see is that those who think about such things and implement them are getting smarter, more effective and much more subtle in their herd management techniques.

Managing centrally controlled systems is a very risky business and the people who do it are very risk adverse. For good reasons. Study the history of the Roman Empire and other great elites and the history of narcotics trafficking, including in the places you live or have lived, and you will find that politics is risky business and we live on a very primitive planet.

Some thoughts,


  1. 8 Kita Rael

Jul 21st, 2009 at 11:15 am

I have been watching all of this unfold for over 20 years of struggling with disabling chronic illness that took me from being very healthy and active to completely disabled and in chronic pain. I have spent many hours of research and frustrating attempts with the dubious assistance of the medical profession to get to the bottom of my health situation in order to correct it.

My own personal opinion in the face of ridicule and dismissal from doctors and others and much digging? That I am living with the consequence of having been exposed to weaponized biological agents. I am not alone with this health situation and opinion. The irony is that I am too sick to do much about it – being housebound and in pain is very isolating and effectively removes me from the playing field.

There is much evidence that, for example, Gulf War vets are in the same boat. The latest estimates that I am aware of is that 1 in 4 of Gulf War vets (from the first Gulf War) are desperately ill and many are dying now of cancers, etc. That is a staggeringly huge number and it doesn’t include the family members who have contracted serious illnesses since they returned home. They were exposed to many horrible things, not least of which were experimental vaccines with adjuvants designed to kick-start the immune system and make the vaccine more potent – this resulted in a huge number of them getting sick with serious auto immune diseases such as Lupus, etc. These adjuvants are not allowed for use with animals because they are considered inhumane. I am very concerned that these adjuvants are in most vaccines now.

I am not a Gulf War vet but I live in an area where some of these agents were developed and “tested” on military personnel and my profession at the time required close contact with many people in a day. Once such an agent is loose in a population there is no taking it back. It’s a small step from using the military as guinea pigs to using the civilian population. I believe this is the case.

There is more and more credible information surfacing about populations unkowingly being deliberately exposed to these sorts of agents to “see what will happen”, a la the Tuskegee syphilis study.

I do not doubt the scenario that you have outlined here, Catherine, for I am living with the truth of this in my very body. My experience of this takes the discussion from the realm of theory and information to knowledge of the most personal kind.

  1. 9 catherine

Jul 21st, 2009 at 11:27 am


Thank you so much for your post.

We have many members of our network who have come to the same realization struggling with lyme, chronic fatigue syndrome, or mysterious ailments or who are managing children with autism or parents or loved ones with alzheimers. Add them all up and these are at epidemic proportions now. The psychic, spiritual and financial expense to families is enormous. In combination, these diseases have sidelined enormous numbers of gifted, natural leaders.

Simply understanding and facing the truth of what is happening and doing it together has real power. Another action that we can all take from where we are is prayer. I believe that prayer of people acting in alignment can create a “force field” that can shift the course of events. I have no idea how to organize such a process…I just believe that it can happen.

So your spiritual and mental power is great, no matter what your body endures.

My prayers are with you,


  1. 10 michael

Jul 21st, 2009 at 11:49 am

(thank you for posting my comment:^) @ Kita- I know people that have faced similar circumstances and won, so don’t give up hope, never give up hope!

  1. 11 ginny

Jul 21st, 2009 at 2:11 pm

I already had the swine flu 3 weeks ago. I hope it doesn’t mutate into something worse. I think it was bio-engineered and accidentally released into the population.I don’t want to think it was deliberate It started as a sore throat and then as the day went on I got very tired The next day I had to lie in bed all day for three days. I had mild muscle aches, chills, and fever like with the regular flu but the worse part (unlike the other flu) was a lack of appetite and nausea. I briefly thought I might die,but it was just how bad I felt. On the 5th day I went out just to get my bearings back And on the 6th I more or less was back to 80% normal It took another week or two to get the rest of my energy back and all that’a left now is a cough.

  1. 12 e. neff

Jul 21st, 2009 at 5:30 pm

I generally believe all of this but I have a problem. That is after watching the series Earth Without People, I think that was the name, I realized that if the population was radically reduced quickly the remaining people would have problems almost immediately trying to shutdown nuclear power plants around the world. Who would run this process? Robots? I don’t doubt that the advanced technology exists but it would have to be up and ready to go almost immediately. How would they keep the services that they need running for clean water, food production, and such. Nanobot technology? I recommend everyone read Ray Kurzweil’s book The Singularity is near or watch the technology summit on Youtube titled ray kurzweil stanford summit 2006. I believe all this is possible in the very near future. But the shotgun approach to scattering chemtrails and releasing germs into the environment to infect people at random would get too many of the people that the chosen few would need to help them exist. That is the part I don’t get.
At any rate I have autoimmune problems and have been bullied into getting a flu shot the last two years in a row followed by getting extremely ill for 3 weeks both times with “the flu”. Eventually, everyone else in my household became ill in succession including an elementary school aged child, a young adult and my husband who is never sick.
None of us will willingly get another shot for anything, ever. However, having been a registered nurse I know that the government can make anything they want mandatory. Although not mandatory to be vacinated if one works in healthcare a great deal of pressure is put on personnel in hospitals to receive these annual shots.
Just random thoughts. No real answers. I have tried to get as many people as I can to read about the technology that is coming soon but most have no interest in these things and at least where I live don’t believe that any of these things are possible, either this radical advance in technology or that a handful of cabals around the world are vying for control of a coming world wide government and if not held to account may not have everyone’s best interests at heart.

  1. 13 katherine

Jul 21st, 2009 at 6:58 pm


Along the same lines, the NWO is attacking our food supply through Codex, guidelines that are to be enacted by the end of 2009. Like the flu vaccine, it is very scary stuff that will change our food supply, centrally plan the way food is grown, and limit the individuals choice as to supplementing diet with vitamins and minerals. It is predicted that a minimum of 3 billion people will die as a result of the mandated guidelines. The U.S.A. is a signatory to the Codex guidelines, but there is opposition building. The article I read on the subject is by Barbara Minton of Natural News entitled “Billions of People Expected to Die Under Current Codex Alimentarius Guidelines.” It is available at AlexJones.com. Everyone should read it. It underscores the necessity of every community planning for a local food supply.

  1. 14 Daniel S

Jul 21st, 2009 at 7:00 pm

I do think the plan is for a slow depopulation generally, and I completely agree that they are very careful. I think they’re main priority is always far and above, maintaining control. Not efficiency in terms of productivity which they often absurdly disguise shifts in organization as. I suspect that many nations are essentially working experimental models for herd management. Or in some cases, models that are not directly controlled but used nonetheless via probing etc.

Whenever I see a persistent problem that society doesn’t solve, I ask, how does this serve billionaires? Invariably it does although sometimes indirectly. And so for example I think domestic violence and bullying in schools help prevent people (and especially the most sensitive who most threaten billionaires because of their heightened perceptive potentials) from reaching self-actualization. I think societies around the world are brimming with traumatized people who have great difficulty in thinking clearly, sleeping, and have compromised immune systems as a result. They also carry shame which plays a dual role of preventing their healing and promoting addictions. Traumatized people tend to be closed-minded because of a heightened sense of threat to their most base needs. Who wants to “talk politics” when they feel imminently threatened, even if the thoughts that produced the feeling are irrational?

Also societies fail to effectively address noise, particularly bass. In my view our minds train to rhythms. Bass from music, traffic etc, is unnatural both in it’s strength and it’s patterns. It is what I term a pattern-interrupt but I don’t know what one would properly call it. I just know that, as the Buddha said it can be very difficult even for a monk to meditate when in pain, I cannot properly relax or think clearly when subjected to semi-random thumping noises that I can even feel. When meditating or relaxed, our mental activity is more dispersed, our mind works in a more whole way. I believe a response to trauma can be the blocking of memories but they are etched in via high levels of adrenaline. With memories as part of a network and a balanced biological system, their blockage denies us access to use of more than just the memories of trauma but alters perceptions and cognition generally. It denies us access to our whole minds. Meditation can unpack these “boxes” returning access to difficult memories of trauma and to a more whole mind. I expect that a broad spectrum of means are being used to suppress normal healthy thoughts, such as our increasing exposure to Radio Frequencies.

You may not be aware of it since you’ve ditched your tv, but tv programs feature a lot of flashing today. Strobe-lighting would be more accurate. A popular Canadian show called The Hour on CBC is a good example, with as a very rough estimate perhaps 200 flashes per episode. I believe this is to fatigue the conscious mind so that messages can go to the subconscious mind without filtering (this is also done through imagery that bypasses, and data-intense messages that overload, our ability to process), disrupt normal thinking patterns generally, stimulate the release of adrenaline, and even increase levels of cortisol in the brain thus damaging hippocampal cells. Basically I think it induces a stress response that people become addicted to as a numbing agent. I think it also likely increases viewer-time generally and reduces the likelihood that viewers will change the channel because it reduces their self-awareness. Every year it seems the amount of flashing/strobing is notched up a little.

I get ridiculed for these views. We are even being trained to view ourselves as objects rather than processes which is very unhealthy since it encourages people to live in an unbalanced way, ignore what their bodies tell them, try to push through problems by doing more of the same, and look for cures to life’s problems (such as winning the lottery) rather than ways to manage life in an ongoing way (such as cultivating positive relationships and learning).

The main obstacle I see is in how unhealthy people’s thoughts are. It seems people are unwilling to spend time between certainties and be responsible. (I try to stay in a mindset of not knowing, just “this is the best I’ve got so far”). Thinking of these things is stressful for them so they avoid it. They suffer from all-or-nothing thinking, saying things like “It won’t matter, there won’t be anything I can do anyways.” To which I reply, there were poor Jews and rich Jews who survived the Holocaust, and both poor and rich Jews who did not. Surely one of the differences was in what they were willing to think about, when they were willing to think about it, and what they decided based on that thinking. Surely there are choices we too can make today.

  1. 15 Former US Marine

Jul 21st, 2009 at 7:06 pm

My thinking on this matter:

Not one event, past or present, that comes from our Federal Government or Mass Media is trustworthy or accurate. I resigned from my career 18 months ago after becoming aware of several criminal historical events; for no longer would I make a living and fund or support such a sadistic and evil system we are living under. Many of you, will smile at me and shake your silly heads but the joke is actually on you, it always has been. Until people can open their eyes and look at BOTH sides of any issue prior to making a decision, they are simply human sheep being fed a constant diet of lies and deceptions by the mass media.

The following, are events that I have studied in depth and know to be factually true; as such, I will never do what this government or media tells me to do.

1. Federal Reserve is a private bank controlled by Zionist Criminal interests
2. Sinking of Lusitania that started WWI was an inside job for Zionist & Central Banking interests
3. Pearl Harbor was allowed/forced to happen in order to get us into WWII for Zionist and Central banking interests
4. Holocaust is a giant Soviet Marxist FRAUD used for anti-German propaganda, Zionist interests and the future base of Marxist World Control
5. King David Hotel was blown up by Zionists dressed as Arabs
6. Levon Affair was a Zionist Operation against US/British interests in order to blame the Muslim Brotherhood
7. JFK was murdered for opposing the Dimona Nuclear Plant and fighting against FED control of our money supply
8. Gulf of Tonkin was a blatant and admitted LIE
9. USS Liberty was attacked by Zionists in an attempt to blame Egypt, but she luckily survived the attack.
10. Moon Landing was a LIE used to create pride in America during the mass Social upheaval of that time. Russia was paid off in Grain during 1972, the last year of the Moon Walk JOKE.
11. 1st Gulf war was LIED about from the very beginning by the Kuwaiti ambassadors daughter to the US Congress for Zionist interests
12. OKC Bombing was done to discredit the growing US Militia movement who had identified the NWO or actually JWO that was in the process of transformation.
13. Man Made Global Warming is a FRAUD and is a tax base scheme to fund Global Marxist interests
14. 9/11 was a DEMOLITION for Zionist interests and a Coup D Etat to kick start the New Global Marxist Order and destroy our US Constitution
15. 2nd Iraq War was LIED about using false information and fear mongering for Zionist interests, water and oil resources.

With these historical lies revealed, I will never support or listen to our Zionist Occupied US Federal Government and our Zionist Controlled Mass Media/Hollywood. While I cannot prove, with the same amount of ample evidence as for the above statements, the AIDS and Cancer industry both appear to utilize the same techniques of lies, deception and propaganda attributed to the above Psychological Operations. Once you identify how they lie and deceive, the whole ball of yarn starts unraveling before your very eyes.

Who will die and who will live, whether it be from this current Swine Flu bullshit or another Operation waiting in the wings I do not know. However, we must look at the goals of these criminals. Below are just 3 basic goal assumptions:

1. Population reduction
2. Controllable population that will obey directives
3. Functioning high tech society

Now, if they want a population of around 500 million, then how many doses of medication do they need? If the medication kills, then one needs 5.5 Billion doses; if the medication protects you, then one needs 500 million doses. You do the math and feasibility of application.

Furthermore, do you want to kill the people who follow your directions to take the medication or kill the ones who refuse to follow your directions? These criminals would have no need for the self aware individuals who refuse to obey their directions; so of course, you kill those who refuse to obey directions.

Lastly, do you want to kill the technologically advanced 1st World populations or the masses of non-technological 3rd world populations that have high birth rates and little historical evidence of mass mind control? Of course the masses of 3rd world humanity must go.

With that said, I will still refuse to take any directives from these criminals even if that means the end of my life. I would rather put my hope/faith in something outside of these criminals’ words and actions. For instance, Murphy’s Law has a way of showing up, as happened with WTC-7 and the Pennsylvania Plane on 9/11, thus alerting millions of people to the fraud of 9/11. One good honest individual can still make a difference in world events, as Donald Rumsfeld said “shot down the plane over Pennsylvania..”, which can severely impact these criminals perfectly planned operations.


  1. 16 ChristineG

Jul 21st, 2009 at 7:54 pm

500 million people left? But, that’s exactly what the Georgia Guide Stones say would should do. OMG!

As for depopulation, it’s been happening for a long time (just not so much in our well-heeled industrialized countries so we don’t notice). Look at all what’s going on as mentioned in the other posts, and more. Connect the dots!

Another dot:

The UN Food Agency said that now over 1 BILLION people are starving. And sometimes in countries that are *exporting* food! Connect that with all the new laws about agriculture and food production that are being pushed, here in the US and in the world, with more famine and despair pushed on the helpless.

And another dot, the billionaires’ club for depopulation:

Last February, several billionaires (among them Bill Gates, D. Rockefeller, Turner, Buffet, Soros …) met and the first item on their agenda was “over-population” according to a Times article.

“The Gates Foundation commitment to population control funding was likely considerably strengthened with the $31 billion donation to the foundation last year by multi-billionaire Warren Buffet, a personal friend of Bill Gates. Buffett is especially concerned about world population and has given multi-million dollar donations to causes such as the production of the abortion pill RU-486, Planned Parenthood, and the misleadingly-named Catholics for a Free Choice.”

… And who is *also* behind vaccines? Bill Gates with his Gates Foundation. “The Gates Foundation will put up $750 million to establish the Global Fund for Children’s Vaccines.” Now, the man may be well intentioned. That is, if you believe he has suddenly changed from a ruthless, duplicitous, heartless businessman into a do-gooder. Yeah.

  1. 17 sklein

Jul 21st, 2009 at 9:49 pm

ChristineG said:

The UN Food Agency said that now over 1 BILLION people are starving. And sometimes in countries that are *exporting* food! Connect that with all the new laws about agriculture and food production that are being pushed, here in the US and in the world, with more famine and despair pushed on the helpless.

I was truly shocked when I heard that some Irish farmers were exporting potatoes during the potato famines.

  1. 18 e. neff

Jul 22nd, 2009 at 5:42 am

Katherine did Codex actually pass into law? I have tried to inform the owners of health food stores in my area that this is coming but they all deny that it will ever happen. They all say that it didn’t get added to any of the trade bills. I thought that was how they got it put into action. Does anyone know how to look it up?

  1. 19 e. neff

Jul 22nd, 2009 at 5:47 am

I have noticed that if I watch tv or even listen to it without watching that it has a horrible effect on my ability to concentrate or think clearly for several hours. I think it is like a ADD effect. The light coming from it also has a negative effect. I think Catherine is right about not even having one in the house but I can’t get my family to listen.

  1. 20 Jerry Lee Miller

Jul 22nd, 2009 at 7:33 am

Catherine recommended that we ‘pray for the love of humanity to be rekindled in each and every heart’. Rekindling implies that such a flame once burned before….I don’t know if that’s true. Nonetheless, it is a worthy prayer request which I will take to heart.
Where shall I start? Should I just make it a general prayer or perhaps I could do 1 continent each day? Or how about billionaires on Wednesday,politicians on Thursday and carnivores on Friday?
Organized prayer, along with spiritual disciplines such as fasting, could turn many tides of spiritual darkness, no doubt.

  1. 21 catherine

Jul 22nd, 2009 at 9:12 am


The last time I tried to figure out what was happening with Codex, I got a similar run around. I will see what I can find out.


  1. 22 John Drake

Jul 22nd, 2009 at 9:59 am

Catherine said:

“In short, an epidemic can be used to offset the inflation of capital with increasing deflation of the value and income of labor and continual demand destruction. It is a great deal of time and money spent on something that will not help build a real economy. The disinformation and control opportunities are profound. They keep the slow burn going. It is the next, meaner face of “the establishment against the rest of society.”

Yes. But that doesn’t mean all epidemics are engineered. Epidemics are also real and naturally occurring. To not attempt to recognize, identify and appropriately respond to public health threats would be totally irresponsible. And come to think of it it, that LACK of response would be another way to depopulate. Just ignore things or bungle them on purpose.

This is the problem with your theory: virtually anything you observe can be used to support it, because it is not testable in the real world.

If some powers that be wanted to de-populate the planet they could just let the natural course of diseases take place and secretly develop vaccines that work, only giving those to the elite.

How do you know THAT isn’t happening?

The best ways to depopulate the world are to just ignore or bungle the real eco-challenges, health challenges, etc that are going on by virtue of the fact that a huge population of 6 billion plus is going to create all kinds of survival issues without any dark conspiracy needing to raise a finger.

A final hint: polio. It didn’t go away through conspiracy theories.


  1. 23 Jerry

Jul 22nd, 2009 at 10:28 am

2 world wars and the baby boom generation that occurred has certainly created a time bomb. The worlds demographics has changed terribly and this reminds me of 2 professors from UBC who wrote a book on the implications of the economics of the year in which one was born. For someone like me who was born in 1961 the chances of economic success was extremely difficult. As for those guild stones I can’t help but wonder or ask rather what the creators of those stones must be thinking of the Catholic Church and the view that a good Catholic family must have lots and lots of children? It reminds me of my Mom who after having an argument with her priest back in Europe she fumed at him yeah their easy to make but who is going to look after them! YOU! What a frightening discussion this all is here and wow if this doesn’t remind me of something I heard back in my teens of the city of Mexico having a pop. of some 24 million people. It so staggered my imagination at the time I could hardly stop thinking about it or believe it. Just one city I thought. God help us all.
Yep what the world needs is love sweet love and a little bit of common sense to! As for prayer Nike comes to mind JUST DO IT folks JUST DO IT!! Beyond that if one needs guidance on a corporate level I can direct you to the work of Dr. Mary Stewart Relfe and the League of Prayer in Montgomery, Alabama.


  1. 24 Sher

Jul 22nd, 2009 at 10:57 am

Aloha! I’ve been moving my body through lupus for several decades. I’ve been through everything, you name it, I passed through it. I am now out of pain which was as the previous poster stated. At one point I was taking 100 aleve a day. I’ve had all the prescription stuff too. The way I have been able to move through it is to cleanse, cleanse and cleanse some more. A product called “Perfect 7″ has been the sole surviving source I have used. Stop all chemicals you can from entering your system. Hair color, deodorant, lipstick, body lotions, etc. Get your toxins out. Daily. There are some extremely positive outcomes from moving yourself through this epidemic of depleted immune system dysfunction. You can move through it. That is my message. It just takes years, but, you can do it. Do not give up. All my aloha to those facing these immediate problems. It is a tough battle. Just keep moving through it and cleanse your inner sanctum. Sher on Maui

  1. 25 Alt Info

Jul 22nd, 2009 at 11:19 am


The news leaks coming out of the annual Bilderberg meetings confirm much of the same information. Daniel Estulin and Jim Tucker have been reporting on this for decades now. It makes sense since the Rockefeller family is so heavily invested in population control organizations, worldwide, and has been for several decades.

What I find interesting is that the elites have deliberately stopped the US space program from further exploration. We could be sending populations to other planets, even the moon. To me, this means the population control and virus plague scare is nothing more than a ruse to accomplish a world socialist/communist government under the United Nations. Nothing more than to keep the international central banking and industrial interests families in control, despite the threat of chaos. We are their enemy.

Kissinger himself has said it would take a fabricated “crisis” to achieve world government. Here is your crisis then – world depopulation for the purpose of saving the environment, and the use of manmade viruses to help the whole process along, to make it more believable.

I don’t trust the elites any farther than I can throw their white, overweight carcasses.

  1. 26 catherine

Jul 22nd, 2009 at 11:20 am


I have spent a lifetime working with business leaders, government leaders, dealing with private or secret societies and intelligence agencies and my personal, limited experience is that resources are governed first and foremost by plans that emerge from process. The highest level plans emerge from a process entirely outside of formal corporations or governments and often do not comply with existing laws. That is how the world is governed.

So you would be well advised to stop snearing at the word conspiracy. It automatically marginalizes you in a serious way.


  1. 27 ChristineG

Jul 22nd, 2009 at 12:43 pm

John, you do have a point that *all* epidemics are not necessarily engineered, of course. The thing about avian flu, and now swine flu, is that it’s a bit fishy how they came to existence in the media. No sooner than a handful of cases happened in Mexico (some turning out they were not swine flu), and the WHO had their panties in a bunch talking about “pandemic” and “vaccinations”. Then if we look a bit into what’s Big Pharma has been doing about it, then it gets fishier.

And talking about swine flu, I would suggest to look into the way pigs are raised in factory farms. That is, if you can stomach the images. There may be some poetic justice there. I do believe that inflicting a life time of extreme misery to billions of beings (food animals) is bound to have consequences and come back at us somehow.

  1. 28 45alltheway

Jul 22nd, 2009 at 1:04 pm

Hey not to sound crazy, but lock and load. Them first.

  1. 29 Christy

Jul 22nd, 2009 at 1:55 pm

If you were in the Bush administration, doesn’t that make you more connected with power than 99.9% of the public? It doesn’t sound reasonable to speculate on what shadowy figures at the National Institute of Health or in societies desiring population reduction are planning. Shouldn’t you just know, via your connections? Also,… isn’t there a fairly famous clip of Bush Sr. using the phrase New World Order? He was the head of the CIA. All of this doesn’t add up. Of course there are conspiracies among powerful people, but you’re writing like someone at the bottom of the power structure.

  1. 30 Jürgen

Jul 22nd, 2009 at 1:55 pm

“The most dangerous revolutions are not those which tear everything down, and cause the streets to run with blood, but those which leave everything standing, while cunningly emptying it of any significance.” Danish Philiosopher Kierkegaard ………….
The “Swineflu” hit America in 76 already…Go here :

  1. 31 John Hawk

Jul 22nd, 2009 at 2:23 pm

90% of the human species lives in a fear-induced, hypnotic state of veritable unconciousness. The sheeple will gladly give their arm for a magic shot of what in reality will be a death innoculation if the Dark Masters of this human dimension say so. The same 90% think this is all real.

Trust me, none of this is real. The human experiment is just that: a fabricated event with a time-line of illusionary existence. It has a begiining and an end…just as every individuated human has. Best to sit back, roll a good doobie, and enjoy the show…and pass the popcorn! When you get to this place, you belong to the 10% that claims to be ‘enlightened’…which is just another illusion waiting to be popped, ad infinitum.

  1. 32 Dave

Jul 22nd, 2009 at 2:47 pm

After serious thought on the matter,I came to the conclusion that if “they” just wanted us dead,why would they bother with a vaccine program that’s designed to kill us,why not just unleash THE REALLY NASTY VIRUS (that we all know they have)?.
Here’s my theory,Israel released the mild strain swine flu as a threat for us to get in line with their demands to destroy Iran(we have been wisely reluctant to do so),if we do not accede to their demands,they will release the big one,our state department knows of this and they are attempting to prevent a catastrophe if/when the real one hits.
When one considers that the swine flu is definitely lab created(many MD’s are convinced it is)
and the incredible levels of perfidy that exist within the Israeli government and their sympathizers within our government,it appears to be logical.

  1. 33 krash2fast

Jul 22nd, 2009 at 4:06 pm

Jerry Lee Miller,

You wrote:

“Catherine recommended that we ‘pray for the love of humanity to be rekindled in each and every heart’. Rekindling implies that such a flame once burned before….I don’t know if that’s true.”

By definition it’s true (at least with respect to the human amongst us). One is not human without love. If you can manage to forget yourself, you’ll remember!

The problem is, an appreciable number of those elites that really run the world, aren’t exactly human. Not to say that they’re three-headed space aliens from Betelgeuse or anything, rather they lack a soul. They lack conscience. They are reptilian in nature. There is no room in what passes for their hearts for the love of humanity. Fight them with love. When the time comes, remember that it isn’t killing that’s wrong, per se, it’s hatred that’s wrong.

  1. 34 Nathan

Jul 22nd, 2009 at 4:24 pm

Thank you for the insights Catherine. The opportunities presented to the diligent citizenry during this time of revealing will be many – we have a real chance to re-design our systems of interaction.

First and foremost, it is important for all of us to keep in close contact with our family and friends, as much as possible. The keys to surviving the destructive aspects of the New Reality is community solidarity and personal health and responsibility.

Be flexible, creative, resourceful and morally upright in your dealings with the world. The next few years are crucial.


  1. 35 catherine

Jul 22nd, 2009 at 4:38 pm


You said:

If you were in the Bush administration, doesn’t that make you more connected with power than 99.9% of the public?


I would say it would make me more connected that 95% of the people who operate on the overt side of the economy. I would be more connected that may who operate on the covert, however they would have had a lot of knowledge about what is really going on that those who operate on the overt would not — even towards the top.

You said:

It doesn’t sound reasonable to speculate on what shadowy figures at the National Institute of Health or in societies desiring population reduction are planning. Shouldn’t you just know, via your connections?

Nope. See http://www.dunwalke.com. I spent 11 years in litigation with the federal government. That gives me lots of very good sources that I did not have before. However, that means that members of the CFR etc are going to be careful what they say to me, particularly now that I am in the media. Net net, I think my sources of information are far superior than they were. However limited when it comes to my old contacts. Most of the folks in groups like the CFR don’t know what is going on either.

You said:

Also,… isn’t there a fairly famous clip of Bush Sr. using the phrase New World Order? He was the head of the CIA. All of this doesn’t add up. Of course there are conspiracies among powerful people, but you’re writing like someone at the bottom of the power structure.

Good heavens. If I was at the bottom I would never writing this blog. I would be dead. It takes a lot of resources and connections to stay alive as I have and do what I do. That said, people at the bottom have a lot of perspective that people in the middle do not have. I do not feel as I am of any particular group. Rather, I try to use my skills as a portfolio and investment strategist to look at the world whole and be an honest broker to all, albeit I am limited by working in English only.

The question before is: How do we develop new economic models for planet Earth and an investment strategy to shift from where we are to something that places all life at the center?

  1. 36 mark

Jul 22nd, 2009 at 5:13 pm

There’s probably some truth in this – overshoot is definitely a reality. But it’s sad to see people falling into the trap of Holocaust Denial and denial of the moon landing, those are well documented disinformation memes used to discredit critics of the empire. And it’s probably not a coincidence that most of the “reporting” on the Bilderberg conferences that is available on the web comes from white supremacists and others with hidden agendas — perhaps sponsored by the Bilderbergs themselves in order to discredit opposition to what they are doing.

The idea that ecological destruction is not real and it is just propaganda for a global marxist elite is so ridiculous that it is hard to imagine that anyone sincerely believes that. That said, it is also interesting that Al Gore conveniently ignores the corporate and governmental policies making ecocide worse, and the environmental groups largely avoid looking at Gore’s record in the White House (where he pushed numerous policies that made these problems worse). It is a fake debate to either support Gore & the Democrats or on the other hand to pretend the environmental crises don’t exist.

In my lifetime, world population of humans has more than doubled (I’m 45) and the biosphere’s carrying capacity for life (of humans and all other species) has diminished maybe a quarter, although that’s hard to calculate precisely. If there’s a peaceful way out of the mess, converting the military industrial complex to peaceful purposes would be a prerequisite.

  1. 37 Its2Late

Jul 22nd, 2009 at 5:25 pm

Sterilization by stealth
From a reliable however, unconfirmed source.
However it makes complete sense, “ an experiment has been going on for a while, ( and what is startling about this supposed experiment, is there is evidence out there).
Over the past years, the fertility rate, has been dropping in many areas around the world, and the sperm count, on many healthy people that had a high count have now more than halved, and in some cases dropped to zero.
Apparently there is an injection now available that will make you sterile !
This is something you can give a population without their knowledge, under a false pretence, (which our Governments are very good at).
By the time, the people become aware it’s over.

  1. 38 Ann Diamond

Jul 22nd, 2009 at 6:05 pm

This week I lost two friends to cancer. I am in my 50s. I have more friends who seem to be on their way out. Looking around, I would say we are deeply into a catastrophic situation. I think some people are deliberately choosing to die — that’s just my sense. They don’t want to be here at this time, to experience what is coming.

That said, I feel I belong here and in many ways I feel optimistic. This past spring, I was on Crete visiting villages where many people live to be 100 years old and up. It’s a combination of high altitude, relatively organic agriculture, healthy diet, knowledge of herbs and medicinal plants — and basic attitude. These are descendants of the same villagers who heroically resisted the Nazis while so many other peoples caved in to terror.

Intuition tells me we should turn to Nature for support to get us through this time. I learned about plants that really cure cancer, by cleaning toxins from the blood. My Greek natural doctor/friend swears by aloe vera and a herbal concoction called Swedish Bitters. There are also plants growing naturally in our environment that can protect against radiation sickness: the roots of one of the Yucca family are an example.

We should be forming study and support groups to share information on how to have a healthy immune system, by eating healthy. Also, eliminate FEAR from your diet. The NWO is based on fear and separation. It’s a turning away from One-ness and Nature. Never forget that, and don’t allow them to gain power over you by surrendering to fear.

Reading Cheri Huber’s THE FEAR BOOK. Highly recommended.

  1. 39 Catherine

Jul 22nd, 2009 at 6:23 pm

In response to several comments, I should mention that my father was a surgeon and (See http://solari.com/blog/?p=2836 ) much of my thinking about the role of medicine in society — both positive and negative – has been heavily influenced by his experience and what he taught me in confidence(see http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0408/S00265.htm ) as well as the writings and research of Jon Rappoport who I find one of the finest thinkers in this area.

  1. 40 Aussie Peter

Jul 22nd, 2009 at 6:38 pm

To John Drake:

John, in your attempt at a bit of a sneer you have actually inadvertently hit a very big nail right on the head. What you say the elite “would” do (if they were really intent on genocide), is EXACTLY what is happening. I could quote several examples but I think just one will do – so-called “Global Warming”.

It doesn’t take much research to confirm our weather goes in 25-30 cycles of warming and cooling, which in turn are part of bigger cycles of warming and cooling. It also doesn’t take much to confirm we have just been through a 25 year warming period, which was probably at the end of a longer warming cycle, and we are now entering a 25-30 year cooling cycle which could well be the start of a longer cooling cycle.

Finally, contrary to all the doom and gloom hysteria, it only takes a brief glance at history to confirm that in all past cycles, the “warm” times have been the times of plenty and prosperity, and the “cool” times have been times of poverty, famine and mass starvation.

Even if we were entering this period fully prepared for it, we would STILL be looking at hundreds of millions, if not billions, starving and freezing to death in China, Asia, Eastern Europe and elsewhere over the next couple of decades. Instead, in those “western” countries where at least some aid might have come from (such as here in Oz), we are cutting back food production in favour of GM cotton and such (global marketing), ripping out thousands of acres of productive citrus and other trees (can’t compete with cheap imports), and wasting our time and energy arguing the merits of a “carbon tax” to offset “global warming” (reducing productive capacity).

Chuck on top of that the fact that those countries that might have been able to help are all in financial meltdown from the totally engineered “financial crisis”, PLUS the fact that those same countries are all veering away from large-scale production of the one thing that might have helped – energy, in favour of “wind” and “solar” farms that take more energy to produce than they deliver, PLUS the fact that it is ALSO those very same countries that are now planning to mass-innoculate their populations against this totally fabricated “swine flu” epidemic, and what do you have?

Mass starvation and exposure deaths in third world countries, and a complete and utter inability of the rest of the world to help, being mired in their own manufactured poverty, lack of means of production, and sickness and disease.

Pretty much EXACTLY the scenario you say the “elites” would impose IF there was any “conspiracy”. Oh, and did I mention the half a dozen or so fabricated, resource-hungry, morale-destroying wars either already being waged or being planned by the “West”?

By the way – if you care to do any research – the polio “epidemic” was NOT “cured” by the vaccine, which was not even introduced until nearly two years after numbers of victims had fallen back to almost normal levels. No matter where you research it, the “epidemic” itself exactly follows the introduction of sweetened “pop” drinks, and was almost certainly the human body’s initial reaction to large-scale exposure to toxic levels of sugar.

  1. 41 Steven G. Berry

Jul 22nd, 2009 at 8:15 pm

Catherine, every once in a while you just scare the bejesus of me.

So, you’re publicly ruminating over the odds concerning a world-wide plague…spooky. “Former US Marine” makes it worse by pointing out how much cheaper, easier and logical it is to only vaccinate people who follow directions.

Several pundits I respect predict massive economic turmoil this fall, just in time for flu season. The combination of currency collapse and a killer virus would make any government effort to inoculate even ten percent of the population seem heroic.

I think before can develop new economic models that place all life at the center of a humane investment strategy, we need to have a better understanding of where we are at now.

If we agree that governments world-wide are now controlled by a criminal cabal bent on global domination through tyranny, then we need to identify and overcome whatever tools they use to maintain oppression.

The most obvious tool they use is money. Nearly everything they do is prohibitively expensive. It takes an obscene amount of money to keep their place at the top. If we could take away their money, we would take away their primary source of power.

Unfortunately, hardly anyone really understands how money works. We all know money flows uphill, but most don’t understand why. The mainstream media is doing an unprecedented amount of reporting on monetary reform and we know who runs the media. If there are changes being discussed, we the people should be part of the conversation.

If I may start, I offer that the most vile aspect of money to me is usury. The three major religions all originally outlawed usury before the word was corrupted to its present meaning. Any unearned taking should be strictly outlawed in polite society. Investment returns should be tied to profits, not interest rates.

The best place I know of to read more about ending usury is http://www.perfecteconomy.com (not my site.)

  1. 42 Jerry

Jul 22nd, 2009 at 8:32 pm

To Ann

Wow can I relate. I have been exposed much of my life to the Greek culture and have a dear friend Anna by the way who tells me the difference between food from here and Greece is night and day. Take an apple for example, here in Canada she says, it is usually tasteless and basically just filler. In Greece however an apple taken from a tree was so full of juice one had to be careful not to mess ones blouse. A big difference she says between both countries and as for cancer well I work in a care home for the elderly and I have never been around so much sickness and death but what gets me is just over the last 8 months 2 fellow workers have been diagnosed with cancer. Then if that wasn’t enough I read a recent report that Nova Scotia has an apparant epidemic of cancer cases that it has now become a serious issue. So much so in fact that her citizens are now being asked for samples of their toe nails for research purposes. Both the government and the medical community want to get to the bottom of what is happening. This however didn’t really strike home until I went to work the next day to hear from a fellow worker Lynda that she had to immediately travel to Nova Scotia because her aunt had just been diagnosed with cancer! I just stood there in disbelief at what I was hearing and then mumbled to myself God only knows what is growing inside each and everyone one of us. This also brought to my remembrance the work of a Dr. Myron Wientz and how he believed that our food no longer provides for us any real nutrients and accordingly we need to supplement our diets with proper nutritional supplements. His company by the way is called Usana and the science behind it is worth a look if anyone is interested. You know maybe what the elites need to do if they are so worried about population is just sit back for a while and watch as mans industrilization and pollution do the trick. I hear over in Hawaii the beaches are so full of garbage from being washed ashore that a pelican starved to death its belly full of the stuff. Plastic and what not.


O by the way what was it that the poet said…

“Build Jerusalem here among these satanic mills.”

  1. 43 Christy

Jul 22nd, 2009 at 8:35 pm

“However, that means that members of the CFR etc are going to be careful what they say to me, particularly now that I am in the media. Net net, I think my sources of information are far superior than they were. However limited when it comes to my old contacts. Most of the folks in groups like the CFR don’t know what is going on either.”
—Okay, I read a little more of your blog and biography. If 1918 style flu comes along every 50 years or so, and there are plenty of fatal diseases such as drug resistant TB, wouldn’t it just be easier to stop public health efforts and let people die this way? Hard to tell. Anyhow, regarding the CFR, I have a coworker who I discovered, via google, is closely related to someone very high ranking in the Reagan/Ford administrations. He is in the CFR listings for a few years. I’ve never broached politics because I can’t guess whether she is liberal republican or moderate democrat. We work in an area of science that influences public policy. In any case, after paying close attention, she has impressed many times in being diplomatic and able to communicate with people across class and political lines. Reading about the relative, people have good things to say about him, and it emotionally makes me want to believe he is a nice guy who couldn’t have known about bad stuff going on under Nixon, Reagan, and the Vietnam war etc. Are there people who attend the CFR who just know their specialty, and believe they are just providing civic leadership?

  1. 44 Betty Paulsen

Jul 22nd, 2009 at 8:49 pm

As a great grandmother who has been aware of the NWO and the Bilderbergers intent since 1955, I found this an excellent discussion. I agree with Catherine 100% that the powers that be are trying to destroy most of us. I don’t know how she arrived at 500 Million people, but all of you should find this interesting: go to http://www.radioliberty.comstones or en.wikipedia.org or search engraved stones, Georgia, and see the 4 American “stonehenge” stones in GA. There are 10 goals: reducing world population to 500 Million, environmental causes, a new world language, fitness, world court, to name a few. All of these were goals of Hitler. Another refers to the Age of Reason, a book written by Thomas Paine intended to destroy the belief that this country was founded on Judeo/Christian principles. Are we not witnessing all of these things? Hitler was a fanatic on health, nature, exercise, extermination of life. Another fact not mentioned in the blogs is that we are now somewhere around 47 MILLION abortions in this country. And no one blinks. This was the another form of population control . These aren’t just cells, they grow up to be PEOPLE. I have no answer except to resist the government at all costs. AND pray like your life depended on it. It does. One more comment: George Bush I did say “we have just gone one step further towards a NWO. Its on Youtube.

  1. 45 dogismyth

Jul 22nd, 2009 at 9:19 pm

The elite will leave us to ourselves when it comes to self destruction. A majority of people on this planet still trust government officials, medical officials, corporate CEOs and the like. And as we proclaim ourselves to be a democracy, the majority rule. That’s the first mistake obviously, since no one rules me/you, but yourself.

The best teacher of how the world works is the stock market. I have studied the market for many years, and am quite familiar with history (the real history…not school history, or TV history) of events. In the markets, everything is either a headfake or not. You never know the truth in the market and it never makes sense. Some work diligently hours upon end trying to elucidate the likely future of the market. Of course, the successful ones are those that stand back and observe the world and long term trends. These are the winners.

The reason I tell you this is that life is much the same IMO. many headfakes, lie, deceit in the world orchestrated by our leaders. They operate efficiently using psychological factors that are key to achieving their end result without difficulty. In most cases, they create the problem and we ask them for a solution. And typically the solution is something they had wanted all the while.

Therefore, you must ask yourself whether the vaccine is good or bad for you. Because the smart and informed discuss the probability or likelihood of potential harm, even death, from such a vaccine. However, those less informed or carefree would gladly step forward for a free vaccine. Now I ask you…if you were the evil elitists…which group of people would you preserve…the informed or uninformed. LOL…the market this year has been exactly the same. Since March 6 of this year, the market has rallied tremendously even in the face of dire news about the economy. How could such a thing occur with high unemployment numbers, bankruptcies, credit contraction, foreclosures….?

Now those that believe what they are told, i.e., that everything is OK…get back in the market are doing great. Or have done great thus far. But the smarter individuals, or those that think they are smart, say this cannot be. The market may rise for a few days, but it must collapse soon because of what I know. Well, those folks have been wrong now for 5 months and many have been financially destroyed.

So its not always what you know when you make a decision. I mention this because your decision to either take or not take the vaccine will be important.

  1. 46 German

Jul 22nd, 2009 at 9:58 pm

There was an interview with someone from “www.cochrane.org” in German Spiegel yesterday.
Cochrane is a scientific group studying health issues, independent from big pharma or other interests.

They said that vaccines have never worked well in the elderly and children. That the one single most important prophylactic measure is “to wash hands”.
They said that Tamiflu shortens a flu only by one day.

They said that a flu like (i.e. sudden onset cold with high fever) is caused by as many as 200 different pathogens / viruses.

In every normal year, there are 20-30 thousand flu related deaths in Germany. Why then make such fuss about five “possible” swine flu cases here, and another two dozen there?

To me, the reporting on the swine flu has been infuriatingly unprecise. Many cases that are reported as “swine flu” by the government health agencies have never been tested (and it usually says so right in the article, or I would not know).

To me, this is all about instilling fear, influencing (influenza) the people with fear.
It also seems that something is afoot. A money making scheme, yes. Depopulation campaign, I don’t know.

  1. 47 MIke

Jul 22nd, 2009 at 10:05 pm

Listen, Im reading a lot of comments and people sound awfully unprepared and skeptical. THIS IS REAL. There are TONS of articles highlighting the malicious intent of this vaccine. Havent you people heard about chemtrails? They attempted a swine flu vaccination program in 1976 and failed miserably. This too, will fail miserably if people stop acting like whimps and actually act like they want to live. I mean,to that person who said their wife actually stated she’d ‘rather die’,maybe you should do her the favor if life is SO unimportant to her that she would rather give up and quit than stand up and die for what is righteous and just. I hope everyones perfect-life-bubbles burst soon enough. SAY NO to MANDATORY VACCINES.

  1. 48 Gisele

Jul 22nd, 2009 at 10:23 pm

One fact the media never mentions is that during the 1918 flu pandemic 26,000 people were on record for taking the homeopathic remedy Gelsemium & of those who did only 1.5% got a fatal case of the flu, there were also several recorded cases of polio victims recovering fully after ultraviolet blood irradiation. As several folks here have mentioned –restoring your health through clean living & supporting your immunity with herbs & high quality supplements ( to offset the the substandard foods that are most prominently available) will allow you to resist the “diseasification” that the pharmacartels & their rich overlords would inflict on you…gelsemium & influenzinum ( another excellent homeopathic flu remedy) both together will cost you only about 20-25$ for enough for a family of 4 for a year–it’s affordability & effectiveness are why you won’t ever hear about it from the mainstream media!! be well, gisele

  1. 49 Ed

Jul 22nd, 2009 at 11:12 pm

It’s all about money and that’s really all it is about. GREED. Glaxco-Smith-Kline will make approximately $2 BILLION from the vaccine before the end of the year. That’s $2,000,000,000.00. And if you, or a loved one, die in the process? So? What are you worth to them? They don’t know you and they don’t care.

  1. 50 Aussie Peter

Jul 22nd, 2009 at 11:26 pm

There almost seems to some form of “debate” going on here as to whether the swine flu vaccine will be “good” or “bad” for you – EG – comments like “which group would the elite wish to kill off”?

As I already outlined above, most of the large-scale “killing” will be by simple starvation and exposure in third world and developing countries. In the western world all that is required is to maintain control, and developing poverty and other imposed conditions will eventually “thin the herd”.

If the elite are to maintain control the last thing they need is for the populace to start dropping like flies from vaccine-induced epidemic of some kind. Or to have productive people dying of an introduced agent because they “refuse” to have the vaccine. They just need to weaken people’s resistance and resolve.

To that end it is not necessary for the agent or vaccine to “kill” any people at all – in fact, direct deaths would be counter-productive. If, however, the vaccine induces much the same response as the last swine-flu vaccine did – any one of a number of neurological auto-immune responses collectively known as Guillain Barre Syndrome (GBS) in, say 10% of the population, and permanently damages the immune system of everybody else, then we have a weak, sickly population, a fair percentage of whom need constant care and attention. Given that the elite have had over thirty years to slow down, and randomise the onset of GBS in those susceptible to it, then we have a medical “Perfect Storm”.

Here in Oz, and from what I can gather, in the US and elsewhere, the plan is to vaccinate the health care workers and the children first, then the old and infirm, and finally the “productive workers”. So consider if, by the time we get to the “productive workers”, most families have a member (a child or an elderly person) who is constantly sick, and in need of full-time care and probably also an ongoing supply of drugs due to a permanently-impaired immune system – catching every cold and infection that comes along, for instance). How many of those people will want to get out on the streets and fight? If the onset of GBS is delayed enough, and randomised enough, it can simply be passed off as a “variant” of the “terrible swine flu”, and most of the population will buy it (google GBS symptoms).

The elite are not going to waste their time attempting to target “sheeple” or “aware” people. Every “aware” person was once a sheeple, and many who realise what is going on nonetheless toe the line, either out of self-motivation or simply from exhaustion from fighting so long (that’s me).

With the bulk of the third and developing worlds dead or fighting each other for food and warmth, and the “western world” impoverished, sick, reliant on drugs, and deprived of a steady, reliable source of energy (electricity), control becomes easy and further targeted thinning simple.

Welcome to the future. I am glad that I am old, but I grieve for the children.

  1. 51 michael

Jul 22nd, 2009 at 11:26 pm

Aussie Peter- Right ON… John Drake is behind the eight ball on this issue… according to Janine Roberts the disease Polio went away because it was relabelled- http://www.fearoftheinvisible.com/whohides

also you said: the “epidemic” itself exactly follows the introduction of sweetened “pop” drinks, and was almost certainly the human body’s initial reaction to large-scale exposure to toxic levels of sugar.

(back to me :^) i heard the same story in a book by Eustace Mullins “Murder by Injection”

  1. 52 Robert

Jul 22nd, 2009 at 11:50 pm


The ratcheting up of the elitist agenda is currently so extreme that there are only two outcomes, virtual enslavement or regained freedom. I believe the outcome we desire, attained by the galvanization and consolidation of the will of the population at large, can be precipitated by our side or by theirs. When the World Bank attempted to force privatization of Bolivian water into Bechtel’s hands, it was their heavy handed action that caused the people to unite. Protesting Bolivians chanted, “The People United Cannot Be Defeated”. Bolivians are not that much different from you and I, or from our neighbors. Some issues are just “truths we hold self evident”, and public access to water is one of them.

I don’t know how much time we have, but this “galvanic uniting” is the magic factor in determining whether the dark or light side retains or wins control. If we can build an Unassailable Agenda of self evident truths, and get it to go massively viral, we could create a unified demand. A unified population will win out over a handful of wealthy elites. The numbers don’t lie.

In addition to the Unassailable Agenda (UA) I propose The Irrepressible Protest (TIP). On a preordained date, when the UA has been widely distributed and has momentum, people can show their support by simply wearing a hat (any kind of hat). This non-targetable form of protest does not interrupt normal daily activities, presents no target for policing actions or repression, and yet would have a huge effect. Imagine going out one day and noticing everyone showing their support for the same agenda! Would there not be tremendous pressure for follow through in the centers of power?

If anyone has a better suggestion, they should offer it up soon!

  1. 53 catherine

Jul 22nd, 2009 at 11:51 pm

FYI – my comments were not intended to mean I anticipate a fast die-off. I don’t. I expect lower immune systems, higher levels of toxicity, an adaptation to a loss of financial benefits and political rights and the combination leading to a slower organic die-off.

I would point out that higher death rates in the seniors means a lot more capital transfering to the next generations to keep their funding going for some period of time. It is a managed liquidation of family capital that maintains the slow burn.

  1. 54 catherine

Jul 22nd, 2009 at 11:54 pm

A hat is a great idea. Seems to me we need something fun that everyone already has – a hat should do it…

  1. 55 martin holsinger

Jul 23rd, 2009 at 12:13 am

Funny….I did my own freelance, intuitive calculation and concluded that about 500,000,000 people would be about right to restore balance on the planet….but I sure don’t see any compassionate way to get there in a hurry. Don’t know that plagues will need to be “introduced,” as they tend to occur naturally in populations that overcrowd their environment. Breakdown of our financial/trade system means it will be harder to immunize people against these things….but I always have wondered,when we talk about saving the lives of sick/starving children, what kind of future are we saving them for? A meaningless life in an urban slum or rural refugee camp? It seems to me that unless we can create a future worth living for, it’s almost crueler to save lives than to let people die…and by the way, this is not abstract for me. Two of my children have died already, one as an infant and the other from early onset colorectal cancer (almost certainly due to childhood exposure to PCBs) at the age of 29.

Back to the subject of flue and vaccines….this crossed my desk today:

“Despite the fact that the swine flue has reached global pandemic levels, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration today announced that it has approved a vaccine for the 2009-2010 flu season that will not protect against H1N1 swine flu – the pandemic strain now most prevalent around the world. In the past week in Great Britain alone, there have been 55,000 new cases of swine flu.”


  1. 56 Tony

Jul 23rd, 2009 at 12:16 am

I find it very interesting that these people that are coming down with this swine flu haven’t been around anyone that has it. I don’t see this spreading going on, people catching it from other people who have it. Everyone that I am seeing get it just get it. Noone knows how, they didn’t get it from someone else who has it. For this new virus going around, wouldn’t you think outbreaks would be happening around people who have it, and not all this popcorn individual outbreaks?

  1. 57 Al

Jul 23rd, 2009 at 1:57 am

Not that I don’t believe in the dark clouds controlling this planet, but the problem I have with this is it’s going to be voluntary. How can they possibly think they can depopulate the earth thru a voluntary system, especially with so many of us on our toes?

  1. 58 D

Jul 23rd, 2009 at 8:09 am

Last night on Australian television, an episode of ‘Law & Order: SVU’ was shown; the storyline revolved around a woman who chose not to vaccinate her child against measles. The child caught it; he was healthy and his immune system was able to eradicate the disease naturally, however he passed it on to another child, who was not healthy, and the child died. The mother of the healthy child was then arrested for Murder. Coincidence that such a thing should be shown on TV at a time like this? I think not.

PS. Residents of the town I live in are currently volunteering for a new vaccine being trialled.

  1. 59 Jerry

Jul 23rd, 2009 at 8:17 am

How about this folks!

Now Legal Immunity for Swine flu Vaccine Makers

By F. William Engdahl

URL of this article: http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=14453

Global Research, July 20, 2009

The US Secretary of Health and Human Services, Kathleen Sebelius, has just signed a decree granting vaccine makers total legal immunity from any lawsuits that result from any new “Swine Flu” vaccine. Moreover, the $7 billion US Government fast-track program to rush vaccines onto the market in time for the Autumn flu season is being done without even normal safety testing. Is there another agenda at work in the official WHO hysteria campaign to declare so-called H1N1 virus—which has yet to be rigorously scientifically isolated, characterized and photographed with an electron microscope—the scientifically accepted procedure—a global “pandemic” threat?

  1. 60 nobodysaysBOO

Jul 23rd, 2009 at 10:17 am

brave post, stay out of airplaines, please.
what will the rulers and wealthy servivors do for slaves and troops with only 500 million left?
Will they have to clean their oun toilets? I think not.
The rich and the corporations that feed on mass production will be stopped, NO MORE MONEY.
How will the rulers protect themselves from all the others taking their stuff?

I find it interesting looking at the world wide flu maps online that there are few or no cases in RUSSIA! Maybe Putin refused to allow them to spray germs in russia?
There are cases everywhere eles even the ausie outback and darkest africa but none in russia? WHAT?

  1. 61 George

Jul 23rd, 2009 at 12:33 pm

Pretty funny and maybe even more than just funny, maybe plain true
What’s In A Flu Shot ?

  1. 62 Shannon

Jul 23rd, 2009 at 12:59 pm

Project Camelot’s Whistleblower radio program has an interview with Jane Burgermeister (Catherine previously had a link to her work, an Austrian investigative journalist who has filed criminal charges against Baxter, Novartis and numerous others charging them with criminal conspiracy re: the vaccines. You can read/listen here: http://www.projectcamelot.org/

(excerpt below):

21 July 2009 – update 2

• On today’s Whistleblower Radio (the Camelot radio show) we featured Jane Bürgermeister with four other guests: Dr Rebecca Carley, Rebecca Campbell, Elizabeth Book and JoAnne Cremer. A fifth contributor called in, Burk Elder Hale – who can be contacted through his website here.

Elder reported that he had been personally told by a senior biochemist at a leading pharmaceutical company [name of company provided but withheld here to protect the source] that:

“…an aerosoled precursor has been put into the air and almost everyone has breathed it into their lungs. The biochemist states that the vaccines to be administered in the Fall will be ACTIVATED when the constituents come in contact with the aerosoled precursor in the body and will cause a rapid spread of the H1N1 Influenza A virus.
This biochemist is very upset about the matter, to say the least, and is a very reliable source that needs our utmost protection.”

We had been told something very similar by our insider source Henry Deacon, who informed us just a few days ago that chemtrails were now frequently being sprayed at 3-5 am (in the very early morning) with the specific intention to compromise the immune system.

We believe this information is credible and urgently requires further investigation.

Back to the radio show. All the guests except Jane had to suffer appalling audio interference on their phone lines. Some details were very hard to hear. A recording of the show (in case it is any better) will be posted here. These are the details of the guests, all of whom are doing important work:

Jane Bürgermeister : legal action against vaccine manufacturers.

Dr Rebecca Carley : research about the harmful effects of vaccines and Tamiflu, strongly recommending colloidal silver as an antiviral.

Rebecca Campbell : research on the financial connections between ‘Big Pharma’ and government and other institutions [“Follow the Money” – as in 9/11].

Elizabeth Book : Florida-based grassroots political activist.

JoAnne Cremer : originator of a large and rapidly growing Facebook Group entitled END FORCED VACCINATIONS.

  1. 63 Michael Anderson

Jul 23rd, 2009 at 2:59 pm

I started on the Internet in ‘94, and I’ve come to the conclusion that what is chided as “conspiracy” by the pundits and media can generally (but not always) be called “business as usual”. Catherine is right when she says that policy is determined outside of regular channels. One other thing—-it takes relatively FEW decisions made at top levels to produce VERY tangible results as they ripple through administrative processes and related social metworks, taking on individual agendas as they go.

I’m for the slow and managed herd depopulation theory—easier to manage perceptions as you go. I sure wonder if there are any written texts from high up that directly address the draconian management of nations, and earth…

  1. 64 Cyrellys Geibhendach

Jul 23rd, 2009 at 4:06 pm

Hi Catherine,

I was wondering if you have any familiarity with the follow up event to your 1998? Temporal produced an article based on his conversation with Source A, the verified active-duty naval officer who is the leading liason officer involved in the 2008 ET contact event which occured in the same year as the Navy’s assertion of control and release from duty of a number of AF officers connected to the Minot AF base nuke fiasco. The AF being the old-guard management over the contact control structure and the Navy assuming some degree of control, management, and involvment with the new type ETs.

I mention this article here for two reasons. The first being that this new ET group has expressed to the SAP involved that humanity is in need of stablizing and reducing its population and the suggestion in the early exchange on the topic was in say 3 generations, and that this was part of a list of achievements for humanity to begin to ensure a more direct contact event(unambiguous) come 2017. The report is that these ETs will not tolerate unethical behavior such as population reduction or control via the use of nuclear, biological, or chemical weaponry.

The other reason I mention it is because the topic and title of the article is “Technological Growth In Relation To Population Size” http://lucianarchy.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=unitednations&action=display&thread=4806&page=130#189320
The basics involved in the article pertains to the difficulties the (assumed) SAPs have had in seeding technology and for that technology to be utilized by humanity. It offers the supposition that this difficulty is due to extreme population size and that a smaller size would be more productive with it. It then goes on to express a reiteration but under different presentation of what was originally put forth in the ET Contact Event disclosure above… “Do we give ourselves a timeline? Maybe yes. Hypothetically, let’s give ourselves 3 generations to stabilize. With enough time, economic dislocation can be mitigated.”

While this may be only a thoughtful application of the population managment needs percieved by an outside party, I also am not oblivious to the existing PTB population control & reduction intention/plans and that they as overseers to the contact control structure would have ample opportunity to influence opinions prior to an overseeding of the same by an ET party. It is a muddying of the water so to speak….The article goes on to try to steer the notion of population managment, stablization, reduction into more ethical and voluntary waters.

Like this thread the U.N. Meetings thread is also discussing this very topic in the more current pages and the drive toward a Global Government. I was hoping to get your thoughts on the pro-disclosure groups and the difference between two separate versions of a potential Global Government and if you think that at this late date the pro-disclosure group(s) will have enough command/control/influence to intervene in an unethical population reduction event via Contact Disclosure? Can the retraction of secrecy, one of the biggest problems involved and in my opinion a source of the mentality we face, through the culture of selfishness and despotism, can this initiate a global awareness on a level where real correction of the path being taken is possible?

  1. 65 Karl

Jul 23rd, 2009 at 6:04 pm

“… population growth rates have been declining globally, largely as a result of expanded basic education and health care. That trend is projected to lead to a stable world population in the middle of the twenty-first century… **The current decline in population growth rates must be further promoted** through national and international policies that promote economic development, social development, environmental protection, and poverty eradication, particularly the further expansion of basic education, with full and equal access for girls and women, and health care, including reproductive health care, including both family planning and sexual health, consistent with the report of the International Conference on Population and Development.

— UN document S/19-2. Programme for the Further Implementation of Agenda 21

I personally think we’re dealing with the Hegelian Dialectic, which is being thrown at us repeatedly. The synthesis of the current crisis will be a comglomeration of the two current extremes — that there is no population issue, and that there is a population issue and people must be culled. We’ll end up with some “green” movement that aims to reduce family size and be happy with 30% of our current lifestyles. The end result will be bigger government and this time it will be global, under the UN, and your freedoms will have dwindled.

This is how they (the elitist industrialist and financier wealth families of the world) plan to achieve their goals and seal their power for the long-term — they will implement a form of feudalism/socialism/communism that people will choose to live with. Do not be distracted by the extremes they intentional throw at you.

Read up on Agenda 21 — this is the MASTER PLAN.

  1. 66 Gold star herbals

Jul 23rd, 2009 at 6:10 pm

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Star anise, star aniseed, or Shikimic acid, a primary feedstock used to create the anti-flu drug Tamiflu, is produced by most autotrophic organisms, but star anise is the industrial source. Tamiflu is regarded as the most promising drug to mitigate the severity of bird flu (H5N1 ) and Swine Flu.

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  1. 67 David

Jul 24th, 2009 at 6:18 am

A lot of people in important positions are working for the top financial elite (a.k.a. banksters): politicians, scientists, lawyers, judges, businessmen… I am not refering to the bottom of the piramid (policemen, bodyguards and people that simply work for them for a wage), I am refering to the middle and middle-upper positions. Disgusting jobs!
Some of these important people work for them due to several type of blackmails, however the majority work for them because they “think” that they (and their families and relatives) will be privileged citizens of the New World Order… In that case, I would like to say to that people:

Think twice what you are doing… Do you think that all descendants and relatives of the people that helped the banksters during the XVII, XIX and XX centuries, are tagged and will belong to this privileged class? Senseless! Most of them are today normal people ready to be crushed by these banksters. A single person normally has more than 256 descendants after 7 o 8 generations; this number could reach more than 2000 descendants of relatives, and most of them, sure, will be slaves and servants of a New World Order. Thousands of people are tracking what YOU are doing, through the Internet or others means, people is increasingly aware of your actions, people is more intelligent… Another world is possible. You only will be rewarded with some fun and your wage, you are not protecting your families and descendants through your actions.

  1. 68 Connie Baum

Jul 24th, 2009 at 4:10 pm

The CDC has gotten on my last nerve! I blogged about it, although I was not as thorough as you in my condemnation. But I feel better for having vented. Thank you for a most informative piece!
Let us all pray we can impact this evil situation and manifest a good outcome.

Connie Baum

  1. 69 Jürgen

Jul 24th, 2009 at 4:28 pm

What a nasty world !… I go back to my ugly little room and quietly dream about some last
imaginary guitar playing. Not to get an infection out of THIS, is highly unlikely !

  1. 70 Samydass Krishnamoorthy

Jul 24th, 2009 at 4:46 pm

Dear Miss. Catherine Fitts,

Please know that I join millions of informed Americans and
foreigners in supporting your cause i.e. to awaken the ignorant
sleeping masses to the widespread atrocities being committed
against them by the totally evil and corrupt governments of the U.S,
Britain and Israel. I truly enjoy reading your news-commentary and
other articles of great interest and pertinence to the events
happening today. People like you are truly godsent!

The swine flu like the avian flu has been neutralized by higher
(Divine)forces. The illuminati has failed again. Oh yes they have other
diabolical things in the works for us the people. Again they will fail.
The flu or other pandemic of the evil zionists/elite will never come to pass!
They should know that God has a plan too!. God has sent His/Her heavenly
hosts to rid the earth, fondly known as Gaia, of the nefarious activities of
the dark side. This time the bad guys time is up and they know it.

If I ever get to meet with these totally heartless and evil secret rulers like
the Rockefellers, Rothschilds, Bushes, Clintons etc, I would tell them to their
face that their plan to terrorize and take over the world has not only doomed
but is about to backfire. “What goes around comes around, in multiples or with
greater intensity”. Know that the Light has won!

Thank you for enlightening us all Lady Catherine!

Samydass Krishnamoorthy

  1. 71 Dr August Franklin

Jul 25th, 2009 at 12:55 am

Dr August Franklin
Jul 25th, 2009 at 12:34 am
Catherine…( I sent an earlier post but an incorrect email address – corrected in this submission)
Allow me to introduce myself to you and your readership.

I am a direct descendant of Dr Benjamin Franklin. I am very worried about this country as well and have started the Patriot Party which advocates the return to the Republic and the end of Democracy. I am one of a long line of scientists since the time of Grandpa Ben. And I can tell you this. Your fears are founded, and the current sitting corporate officer pretending to be a president [who, in fact, works for the Federal Reserve Bank Corporation] is invested in these bio tech vaccine companies and is introducing your worst fears this fall. There obviously is no “Change” but there is “hope”, and it is, and has always been in speaking the truth and always in the form of education.

To survive what is coming you will need to stay healthy. DO NOT SUBMIT TO FORCED VACCINATION
And follow these simple, inexpensive regimes. And for God sake, please share them with everyone you love

Virus: the innoculation of any virus, regardless of its natural or biodesign has a lifetime of 72 hours. re innoculation by poor hygene produces overlapping 72 hour infection that overloads the immune system innitially, and it takes the spleen 8 days to analyze a new pathogenic genome code to produce the antibody. You can reduce the symptoms dramatically while you wait for your body to produce the natural antibody by doing the following:

At the first sign of symptoms of a bacterial or viral infection you MUST become proactive and assist others that cannot.

Immediately gather pillow cases, bedding, towels and clothing worn or slept in over the previous 3 days and wash them in hot water and bleach. This will kill the viral shedding that came out of your body in sweat, saliva or tears.

Take 3-4 showers per day for a week to wash off more viral shedding.

Keep surfaces clean and DO NOT SNEEZE INTO THE AIR.

In addition to this, take the earlier suggested post about apple cider vinegar and study the work of Dr Jarvis; you can find his work online and it is he who developed it. RE:Introduction of an acidic solution will force the blood to become alkaline to buffer the acid and maintain a neutral pH of 7.0 – almost all bacterial pathogens and virus’s have a 6.5 pH to 7.4 pH growth environment requirement. Swing the blood out of that range even for a short period of time and they die off in the blood stream. Two tablespoons honey with two tablespoons apple cider vinegar solution mixed first then with water added is more palitable than just straight vinegar, but also provides many critical minerals expecially potassium – the aches and pains are potassium depletion due to the pathogen employing it for replication.

After the first dosage, the virus or bacteria will re invade the blood from the interstitial tissue for nutrients and re bloom in 13 hours. A second dose of honey/vinegar in 10 hours and a third 10 hours after that and the body will return to health. In fact most people feel remarkably better in 30 minutes of the first dose. Then in 5 days or so, the natural production of antibodies will clean the rest up.

Catherine I would be happy to discuss this with you for your blog, or feel free to just post it for your readership. It may be the only solution to a massive RICO and dispicable crime about to be suffered on our Republic. You have my website with this post, feel free to contact me at your earliest convenience.

Dr. August Franklin
“Remember elected officials are in positions of Responsiblity, not positions of Authority”

  1. 72 Judi

Jul 25th, 2009 at 11:55 am

I agree with your topic. Bilderbergs like Kissinger have always stated that they wanted a final population of 500 Million when they were not concerned with public opinion. The virus is still mutating- which makes a viable vaccine impossible. The one that is being peddled is a moneymaker for establishment players like Rumsberger and OBAMA.

I’d like you to consider another topic. In the `70s my late husband was in charge of one of a teaching hospital’s departments. Black interns, residents, and nurses were responsible for negligent deaths. Any white person committing the same acts would have been crucified. But it was made crystal clear that if charges were brought, the person bringing the charges was through- forever; professionally and probably literally.

OBAMA wants to give preferable RACIST treatment to Blacks. Can we expect more of the “70s? And then do we need to COMPENSATE WHITES FOR UNFAIR PRACTICES?

  1. 73 alice

Jul 25th, 2009 at 5:51 pm

hmmmm…why should someone depopulate humanity….we are everyone fullfilling our role….we take their vaccines, eat their food…..our health is bad and we need medicine…..all this is a cycle…we are serving our role perfectly….

..and seriously..if the situation is like this…we are considered sheeps….but in all “agriculture” they will not wipe out the strongest animals/plants/in this case humans….why should they….if “they” exists, they will let the one that refuses the vaccine in an intelligent way survive…..if the situation is depopulation….a situation i m not sure about…i think they are just normal idiots who like to earn money on a created dependent humanity…

  1. 74 Chris

Jul 26th, 2009 at 5:52 am

Google Money as Debt

  1. 75 George

Jul 26th, 2009 at 7:11 am

Look up „The Report from Iron Mountain“-study on the internet
to put the swineflu -depopulation topic in the bigger picture outlined in that Report.
It serves as a unifying treat, a modern substitute for the „good ol`“ nuclear treat, with enormous money-making possibilities for insiders. Other modern substitutes are : global warming, international terrorism.
Present history has been unfolding almost right in line with the 3 links below( claimed to be all-right-wringer- nut-hoaxes, or „satire“, once a little attention was drawn to them ) Basically the links confirm, what can be seen today : Asset-stripping, killing off those of „lesser breed“ with their own money, eugenic management, establishing a high-tech control-agenda over happy slaves, to order to achieve true and final „ world-peace“. Yes, the evil-doers want Peace ! They think they do a good job for mankind ! Simply take some time to study and administer common sense only. „ Once the whole show is over, ( and world peace is accomplished ) you will have less rights than a tree “ Attributed to Maurice Strong

The Report from Iron Mountain / A Blueprint to Tyranny
A rare old Video 2:21 minutes

The $5 Trillion Cold War Hoax

The Protocols – Never a Hoax so true

  1. 76 Mark

Jul 26th, 2009 at 8:30 am

Either “excess eaters” have to go, in order to save the inequitable, centralized financial system that’s been intentionally designed to fatten the aristocrats at the expense of the commoners; or the fraudulent financial system – a sadistic game of musical chairs – has to go, and be replaced by an equitable, decentralized approach that frees humanity.

Which will it be? (Hint: one is based on scarcity consciousness and lies, the other on abundance consciousness and truth.) I believe you’re right, Catherine, that vibrational level is key.

It would be foolish to go along with whatever backup financial system the self-serving gnomes of Basel have up their sorceror’s sleeves: such as carbon currency, which is based on the false premise of anthropogenic CO2 as a significant driver of climate change (as opposed to the realities of natural solar cycles and weaponized weather modification). It’s the *toxicity* of many fuels (oil, coal, nuclear…) that’s problematic: carbon dioxide itself is beneficial. The Club of Rome/carbon cult’s deception is being used to guilt-trip, tax, and degrade people who have the nerve to exhale. For millennia, other priesthoods have acted similarly oppressively, in order to maintain their bully pulpits and enrich themselves at the people’s expense. (See “The Green Agenda” website for further info. The “Love for Life” and “Freedom Files” websites are excellent resources – as is Catherine’s site!)

Who will have sovereignty over currency and laws: healthy generous people who respect natural law, or a sickly parasitic Masonic elite? This is fundamental to resolve.

The banksters are black magicians: many people have been swept up in their spell. I suggest we ought to step out of the financial illusion and focus on enjoying real wealth: clean air, clean water, healing sunshine, well-mineralized soils, nutritious food, clear awareness, unconditional love! Healthy people tend to form healthy networks, spontaneously.

“Hypnotism has been exercised over the whole world by the financial system, so that almost without exception people have come to believe that bits of paper are more important than fields of grain, and figures in a book are a measure of the solid worth of a human individual and the only passport to a tolerable existence.”

Major C.H. Douglas on “Causes of War”:

  1. 77 tony

Jul 26th, 2009 at 9:48 am

the personal information i gave was fake. see, i’m a paranoid. i’ve been labeled a paranoid for more than two decades now by people that thought what i feared was impossible. not that i think the post i read is completely accurate, but i have long held that a mass depopulation is required to sustain the ability of society and the planet to support a population affectingly. When the bailouts occurred I told people that something bigger was in the works, but in my limited knowledge I thought that by artificially supporting the value of foreclosed properties despite an obvious lack of demand merely a stop gap to further separate the wealthy from the masses. I’ve been trying to convince people for more than 30 years that it made no difference what candidate was elected, the course of government was already set and it was heading to it’s destination like a train on the tracks. no course change was possible, only the speed at which we arrived was variable. I’ve pleaded with everyone I knew to arm themselves and organize in hopes of mounting an adequate revolt, but again, I was a paranoid and shunned by most. Not that I care about being shunned, but I am concerned with the chances a fictionalized resistance can present. And with the world as I look upon it today, I wonder if we were to not only mount such a revolution, but win it, who is standing in the wings waiting to take over and organize the new world in the order they wish regardless of the masses. so I would just ask one thing. If they really are out to harm you, are you still just a paranoid? the fact is, even if a paranoid is watching for a million wrong conspiracies, you don’t slip anything in on him because he’s afraid of everything and watching for any attack. Now will you arm up and organize? And stop thinking you are safe doing so on electronic media. In this post of mine alone I know that I have used at least 20 words that trigger analysis by big brother. Good luck to us all. I hope we make it.

  1. 78 WillyS.

Jul 26th, 2009 at 10:39 am

Catherine, I would be interested to know the calculations you used to arrive at your 500 million number. It seems several people have arrived at this same number. The number, as stated in a previous comment, is from the Georgia Guidestones. Yet you and a friend independently both calculated the same number. Very strange indeed.

It is not known how the designers of the Georgia Guidestone arrived at their 500 million number because they are anonymous. I’m curious to know where this number came from.

  1. 79 rose

Jul 26th, 2009 at 10:44 am

If you read the writings of the Huxleys, Bertrand Russell, Bernard Shaw, Jacques Attali, Zbigniew Brzezinski, The Club of Rome, and a whole array of others, you will come to the conclusion, that, yes, depopulation is in the works. It’s been in the works for some time. However, it isn’t working fast enough, so it’s time to step it up a bit. I think we are headed for some very interesting times . . . nightmarishly interesting. As the elite move forward in their plans, it’ll be all we can do to hold onto our sanity and to stand our ground in the face of the hoards of people who will simply go along with the agenda thinking that “they wouldn’t never do anything to harm us.” There’ll be many who feel that all will be well if we just cooperate. I have been watching this country go steadily down hill for quite some time, but so many people don’t even notice. They have no idea . . . no clue of anything that is taking place. But then it would interfere with t.v. time if one had to stop, notice, and investigate.

  1. 80 Jen

Jul 26th, 2009 at 11:52 am

So, instead of owning up to the fact that they have stolen the wealth of the American people and shifted it to nefarious sources, they are choosing to kill everyone off? I suppose once they kill everyone off, they will loot whatever is left from those they have murdered.

This is the work of negative life forces. There will be consequences.

  1. 81 George

Jul 26th, 2009 at 1:16 pm

@Mark You posted Major C.H. Douglas on “Causes of War”….quite a good video….. and the wars drag on…
There might be an additional point, hardly anybody was, or is aware of. The central banksters or maybe their core advisors are deeply religious !
Their religion is in total denial of Jesus Christ, but it is a religion nonetheless and it is not atheism ! Greed and obsession with power, are only tools for them to serve their religion ! They are in the opinion, that they are doing God`s will, because God is by their definition : good AND evil altogether. So for them being real bad, will only promote god`s plan for the world and without evil the good would not know anything about its inherent goodness.In the end, the guys at the top of the pyramid will have to sacrifice themselves and they know about that. Their errand-boys like the Kissingers, Rockefellers etc. do not have a clue about that. They will get sacrificed, much to their suprises, soon after their job is done. Simply look at what Stalin did to his most fanatic and loyal henchmen.
Too exotic ? Over the top ? Maybe…. but there is a certain delusional logic to it. Everybody might make up his own mind , as long as their is still a privilege to do so.
@tony I have used less than 20 words that might trigger analysis by big brother…….I personally simply do not care, because I only invite myself and others to THINK, and once you think, you can be wrong, but not necessarily so.

  1. 82 Bernie

Jul 26th, 2009 at 6:59 pm

Those left will also have the problem of 6 billion corpses or huge desease that will get to them too. But if you look at the intelligence of these idiots I can believe they would still try it. Look at Hitler, Stalin etc etc., the people manipulating Obama actually think they can do this, and get a way with it. Hah, the last word will be had by GOD.

  1. 83 Doc

Jul 26th, 2009 at 10:43 pm

Thank you for “sounding the alarm” over the evil NWO/globalists plan for depopulation………..

  1. 84 Dubya

Jul 27th, 2009 at 7:58 am

The Swine Flu would be such a random, shooting in the dark, wreckless, and diabolically insane method for depopulation and population control. It would be insane for anyone to consider such a method because entire families including the masterminds own children or including themselves would be affected or obliterated. This article is nothing but whimsical science fiction, conjured up, fear mongering – equestrian fecal matter. It’s terrorism – yeah, that’s what it is. Pure terrorism. Everyone posting messages is being spied on by the F.B.I. and the C.I.A. at this very moment … until lunchtime when they go on break for a few hours or having a 30 minute lavatory or a cigarette break. Get a life Fitts.

  1. 85 michael

Jul 27th, 2009 at 10:20 am

I would venture to say that C.A. “Fitts” has a life beyond what most even dare to dream (so ha ha on you, dubya…)

anyhow, my 2 eurocents worth- you have to remember that a conspiracy such as this depopulation with mathematical precision cannot succeed because of/for the same reason all the elitists have not succeeded in their mission to govern an ungovernable human race.

at the core of modern day society we find only fractionalization- the opposite of unity- at every level of society.

just to cite one example… when we hear the word Bilderberger, the conversation often turns to all sorts of negativity, but is it really so that ‘they’ are such monsters, out to get us? Well I wouldn’t know, but i do know that the daughter of the founder of the Bilderbergs is one of the nicest people in public life. She, Queen Beatrix of the Netherlands, is respected by her people, and wouldn’t surprise me if she goes down in history as one of the best leaders of our time. She has accomplshed this by setting the tone for the good, simply by setting a good example of respect toward all people.

Anyway it no doubt is true that there are monsters in this world of the reptilian sort, not even fit to make wallets out of, but they have families, they know other humans… they can’t agree about most if not all things, except maybe that they all want more money and power, but that only leads them into cross purposes so there is very little real cohesion.

In short, ‘they’ do not scare me.

  1. 86 S

Jul 27th, 2009 at 10:27 am

“MMS” will kill the swine flu and ALL other pathogens (it has been used in 75,000 cases of malaria, snake bits, spider bites i.e.toxins, all sickness etc). Jim Humble found that if you take sodium chlorite and “activate” it with lemon juice (the acidity is what is needed) – (let it sit for 3 minutes after you mix) – add water- it will kill ALL PATHOGENS- it has cured cancer and AIDS.
Though i have not had any of the above (thank God!) I did wake up one morning with Strep Throat…and if any of you know what the feels like- it’s excruciating pain…I thought “well this is my big chance to test this stuff works” as I had bought some prior “just in case”- well I took it regularly for two days and it was GONE. Actually as soon as I started to drink it my throat immediatly started to feel better. There are MANY MANY more testimonials on his website.
He freely offers how to make the MMS (it’s basically a higher percentage of the sodium chlorite) and a book you can download for free. IT’s CHEAP and it WORKS. I highly recommend it to everyone- also get the word OUT about it- we dont have to die- we can take their stupid shot and then kill it with the MMS and LIVE! go to http://www.miraclemineral.org or just google “MMS” – Jim Humble was down in Mexico when the swine flu hit…he tried to arrange to get with the doctors to show them how to mix up the MMS- a day later he was told that there was a contingent that did NOT want him teaching anyone about this and the Mexican senate’s hands were tied…they also told him to get out of the country for his own safety…there is absolutely something sinister about all of this. Get the MMS- it only takes mere DROPS of this stuff to kill whatever is making you sick. Basically it boosts your immune system to fight off anything that is trying to hurt your body. Trust me I’m a believer after it killed the strep- normally it would take 5 days of anitboidics from the doctor to kill it- but this did it in TWO and for mere PENNIES! Good Luck Everyone!

  1. 87 Dave L

Jul 27th, 2009 at 10:37 am

I’m curious, how does humanity (people of the world) care for the dead when it totals 5.5 million, that is 5.5 to 1 right? Since all the Powers to Be types are not doing the grunt work, who is left to deal with all the dead carcasses? It seems the logistic of that alone are overwhelming and could be the genesis of viruses and the likes never seen before…imagine if you will the dead having the last say!

  1. 88 Joshua

Jul 27th, 2009 at 11:20 am

Frankly, when I hear the term ‘New World Order’, I have to chuckle.

Not that I don’t believe there are some self styled dictator wanna be’s with delusions of grandur, but there does’nt seem to be any ‘order’ to this at all.

It’s one fiasco after another and somehow it always comes back to bite them in the rear (that pesky Nazarene I suspect..)

I think it is more incompetence than any ‘plan’.

But that does’nt negate the danger.

Incompetence can be far more dangerous than a ‘plan’.

Bioweapons, in this case, an influenza scenario, are the worse way to ‘control’ anything.

Even ‘if’ they could innocolate the ‘elite’, these bugs have a way of mutating and they may find themselves a victim of their own design.

Your also looking at the infrastructure that they so proudly display, coming crashing down and they may be the ones with a shovel and hoe trying to grow enough food to sustain themselves.

And you would have to take into account that the ’survivors’ are not going to be in a good mood when these ‘elite’ come out of their holes to inspect their handywork.
There’s only so many places on this planet they can hide.

Let’s face it, by looking back the last 100 years, these guys are not the brightest bulbs on the tree..rich, yes, powerful, only because we let them be..bright?..don’t think so.

  1. 89 Brian

Jul 27th, 2009 at 1:20 pm

Daniel wrote a good essay about what we’re facing as the powers-that-be tries to maintain control when the dollar finally collapses. He also talks about swine flu.

The Last Gasp of The Lords Of Wall Street Or America Get Poorer Part V (dated 24 July 2009)


  1. 90 Brian

Jul 27th, 2009 at 1:55 pm

Here’s another article that backs Catherine up on the swine flu issue:

Martial Law and the Militarization of Public Health: The Worldwide H1N1 Flu Vaccination Program


“It is in the interest of the political powerbrokers and the dominant financial actors to divert public attention from an understanding of the global crisis.

How best to achieve this goal?

By artificially creating an atmosphere of fear and intimidation which serves to weaken and disarm organized dissent directed against the established economic and political order.”

  1. 91 JimT

Jul 27th, 2009 at 3:06 pm

Sorry if I am repeating anything; I haven’t the time to read all the replies:

Beyond doubt [in my soul], this “mandatory” vaccination, must be for the sake of depopulating the United States for sure, and here is one initial reason: We who have, in comparison, the very best of lives when compared to the lives of over 90% of the people of the entire planet, have made a number of mistakes, one of which is we’ve become used to living in the RED! How much do you owe on your credit cards? Could you pay all off in a matter of minutes, or would your doing that, simply add economic heartache on some other end of your world?

Will you cut your cards, all of them, and begin learning to live in the black for all items now, saving the big ticket items?

If the answer is “No!” then the rest of this world is beginning to recognize “the wants and not the needs,” of those of this Country, are causing worldwide pain, and getting rid of most of us, seems to be the only answer to that problem! We’re spoiled as none other nation has ever been!

I’ve been studying the journey of the H5N1 virus since its resurrection in October 2005, firstly, not believing my eyes, at mankind’s stupidity! Now, I recognize there is a plan that while the iron is hot [there is great confusion, with many half asleep from reality] in one felt swoop there can be one or two a billion done away with worldwide, and who among those who are left, shall be sorry for the Americans, given the black eye we’ve recently had painted upon us for the last 8 years? Let’s face it, since we are now most often seen as a selfish people, creators of the Georgia Guide Stones [Illuminists/Bilderbergers], think we are needfully to be among that number.

Yes, we must do one of three things, and they are not mutually exclusive:
1/ Indeed we must leave the bigger cities, for staying, where do we hide?
2/ We must recognize this to be a coupling of the desires of both a secular AND a religious persuasion! One is as I noted above, and the other is that the Papacy may become more able to stand at the head of the entire world, as her religious leader, and given the amount of gold she possesses alone, Vatican City is a very rich piece of property indeed – and so, what will she do for the rest of the world, that she may have her temporal power over all, given her for the whole world that’s left after America, and 1.7 billion more are gone from our number?
3/ As one who has followed H5N1 as noted above, there is only one “good” reason for the resurrection of this plague, and that is to use it as a bio-weapon, and the destroyers of the Earth who do such things, are spoken of in this manner in Scripture:

“And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth” (Revelation 11: 18, KJV)!

Mandatory vaccination or else jail time [do you want to trust anyone behind the scenes at the top of the political tree in the U S?], sounds like we are all going down, whether we agree to the vaccine or not: a live H5N1 virus for us all, for who among us is really seeing any local grievous flu killing people about you? I think this pandemic has been made up to scare, by the media, AGAIN, leading us to the Illuminati, and their schemes that have been planned for decades, and now is the very best time, because we are all shaken up about what’s happening in our world! Is your desire to live in the cities going to sway you from dying a most horrible death? GET UP NOW AND GET AWAY!

  1. 92 TryingToSaveAmerica

Jul 27th, 2009 at 3:17 pm

Go to youtube, there are tons of videos from around the USA where they have FEMA prison camps which have newly installed very large incinerators. That goes along with the theory described in this article. They would need to cremate all of the dead people killed from this biological warfare called the swine flu. If true, there are truly some evil basterds in high places.

  1. 93 martin

Jul 27th, 2009 at 3:55 pm

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  1. 94 Frank S. Ju

Jul 27th, 2009 at 5:39 pm

As a Wiseman once said….Life is “BCD”….Between “Birth” and “Death”…..it’s “CHOICE”…one might believe on the ‘sky is falling’ vs having Faith……not just intellectual Faith…but a true FAITH….the few that Chose to be 100% Faithful in ones mind, heart, and body.

The few with enough knowledge, financial freedom, peace of mind/body, filtering out bad info, stress free….the TRUE Believers might choose to down play this FEAR based hoopla, chaos on Swine Flu, Vaccination, economic meltdown news…..then choose to live with confidence that all this chaos will not affect them.

I thank you for your post….it is refreshing.
Since I am not the mighty that can help everyone…I choose to open the eyes of some around me to see the TRUE LIGHT. This creation of disinformation via flood of unproven FEAR does need to affect one’s spirit.

If it was meant to be depopulated….to achieve truly peaceful, happy, utopic, loving, confident, energetic society…..then let it be. I am OK with that……since those 500 million remaining probably chose Life over Death…chose Hope over Fear….chose natural over synthetic….chose to filter out the negative information…..and focus on POSITIVES

Between Birth and Death…..we all have free will to choose…..if only 500 Million chose to live….that’s OK with me….much more then the biblical time.

  1. 95 Amanda

Jul 27th, 2009 at 6:25 pm

If you are so sure of all this then why wouldn’t you do the research and make a case?

your quote ” I am not an expert. I have no case worth presenting in a court of law. There are hundreds of hours of research on the swine flu and related vaccines that I have not done and I am not going to do”

  1. 96 Robert2

Jul 27th, 2009 at 7:28 pm

Brad, you are wrong about numbers 10 and thirteen.

  1. 97 salome

Jul 27th, 2009 at 7:55 pm

OMG,all the bs. Only thee elites will get the real vaccine,how the hell could they ever prOduce enough to even do nyc ? 8 million right here.
and as for deliberate depopulation ? c’mon,huh—who’s gonna pay for their wet dream of global enslavement ?

you’ve got it @ssbackwards.we get nothin’,nada,niente,zilch,zerO from “”them””…not even an aspirin.
“”They”” TAKE everything leaving us with the bare minimum to survive.
there are may fates worse than death.
grow up.


Jul 27th, 2009 at 8:16 pm

Isn’t this how Jim Jones worked his followers into “depopulation”?

Just line up and drink the kool-aid folks.

  1. 99 gracecom

Jul 27th, 2009 at 8:58 pm

Well, finally someone outside the illuminatti and the NWO group have come with the same number. Go to my website and you’ll see the Georgia Guidestones..Americas Stonehenge with that number carved in stone in 6 languages. Its a done deal folks and the powers that be unless revolution occurs will implement just that thru war,famine,pestilence(bio-warfare). This swine flu hoax is a false flag attempt to get those who are fearful take the vaccine..then become carriers for what the vaccine was engineered for(A BIO-Weapon)!!

  1. 100 Inigo Montoya

Jul 27th, 2009 at 9:22 pm

What you’re talking about is mass murder. It’s murder 1000 times larger than the Holocaust or Pol Pot’s killing spree or whatever else.

Why do you think you would be safe? The criminals who are in charge of the system are watching to see who dares to speak. They know most people are deluded sheep.

They are fascists after all. The Bilderbergers, CFR and Trilaterial Commission people who plan these Holocausts are killers who think they are the supermen.

  1. 101 Dan

Jul 27th, 2009 at 9:39 pm


  1. 102 Catherine

Jul 27th, 2009 at 10:10 pm


Where would I get the “hundreds of hours?” And if I invested another several hundreds of hours would it improve my opinion?


  1. 103 pieta

Jul 27th, 2009 at 10:35 pm

You left out the word Jew.
Thats the only factor that makes sense of the whole thing, and makes it believeable.
Normal people are not capable of such evil.
Are you bainwashed, or simply scared?
Study the Talmud. Its all in there.
The Georgia Guidstones (pop 500 mill goal) is no hoax then!

  1. 104 catherine

Jul 27th, 2009 at 11:09 pm


Have you studied a history of the Vatican?


  1. 105 catherine

Jul 27th, 2009 at 11:11 pm

Let me recommend to all of you a mental game. Sit down and invent a story in which you and your best friends sit around a table. You are presented with a series of facts. As a result, you believe that intentional depopulation is the humane thing to do. Now describe the series of facts.

  1. 106 Jerry

Jul 28th, 2009 at 12:03 am

sitting around the table? Yeah and ultimately saying to each other well I guess what we have hear is a Catch 22-that is damned if we do and damned if we don’t?

Anyway heres an interesting article…

“Vaccines are supposed to be making us healthier; however, in twenty-five years of nursing I have never seen so many damaged, sick kids. Something very, very wrong is happening to our children.”( Patti White, School nurse, statement to the House Government Reform Committee, 1999, quoted in Robert F. Kennedy Jr., Vaccinations: Deadly Immunity, June 2005)

  1. 107 pieta

Jul 28th, 2009 at 1:56 am

“Have you studied a history of the Vatican?”

Dear Catherine,

Yes,several, here’s one.


Kind regards,


  1. 108 DissentFromDayOneDOTcom

Jul 28th, 2009 at 7:15 am

@michael: “Queen Beatrix of the Netherlands, is respected by her people, and wouldn’t surprise me if she goes down in history as one of the best leaders of our time.”

I doubt the isslamists now taking over the Netherlands and Europe will include any mention of Queen Beatrix in their history books; unless, of course, Queen Beatrix and her illuminati friends can pull off the very de-population you claim she is not involved in.

  1. 109 Jürgen

Jul 28th, 2009 at 8:21 am

How to avoid the Mad Cow-Desease of your Belief-System
Simply read this: http://www.rense.com/general86/manmd.htm

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Information to be sent to the US military concerning the upcoming combined UN/WHO counterterrorism exercise and pandemic “drill”

By birdflu666

This is information (thanks Rebecca Campbell of Seattle for drafting the letter) that we are going to be sending out to all the branches of the US military and also to veterans’ organizations concerning the combined military counterterrorism exercises starting on Monday, July 27 through Friday July 31, 2009 in US Region VI, which includes California, Texas, New Mexico and Arkansas.

These UN-controlled military exercises are timed to intersect with the FEMA and Homeland Security H1N1 pandemic drills under the guidance of WHO.

FEMA region IV’s offices are in Altanta. Georgia.


Both the counterterrorism exercise and the FEMA/Homeland Security pandemic “drill” will, therefore, be coordinated by the UN in as far as WHO, a UN agency.

If you are concerned about this counterterrorism exercise and FEMA/Homeland drill coming up, please copy and paste this letter and send it by fax or email to the military bases in your state as well as to your local law enforcement, asking them to stay alert and ready to take decisive action to uphold the Constitution and the rule of law in case signs of an impending covert take-over of the US become more concrete in the coming days.

The corporate mainstream media is owned by the same people who backWHO and the UN, Baxter, banks and other companies that stand to profit from these mass vaccinations and any take over of the USA and acquisition of its resources. The mainstream media has not mentioned these huge and unprecedented UN exercises on US soil or covered the FEMA camps either. We need to get information on these issues out by creating new channels that flow around the mainstream media block and its black out.

In particular, I would ask every single facebook member to circulate this letter as widely as possible as soon as possible, to all branches of the US military — army, navy, marine, airforce — especially in the states affected by the UN exercises by making phone calls, sending faxes and emails.

Every soldier, police officer and First Responder informed is a soldier, police officer and First respondr who will know what to do in case a threat from the UN and WHO to the people of America materialises.

Here is a listing of all military bases in US by state

Here is a listing of all police stations in US by state—some 4000 of them


To Our Fellow Americans in the United States Military, Law Enforcement, and Those Who Serve as First Responders:

We have reason to believe that the joint NorthCom counterterrorism exercises commencing on July 27, 2009 in Region VI involving troops from the United Nations, United States, United Kingdom, Canada, Germany and Mexico may endanger the sovereignty and general welfare of the United States, as well as that of your families and yourselves.

These combined military exercises are a questionable show of force against a terrorist threat that likely consists of the UN and its client national governments forcing this military action upon the American people.

Further, these exercises involving UN troops are timed to coincide with a pandemic emergency exercise organized by FEMA, Homeland Security and the World Health Organization (WHO), an agency of the UN.

We are concerned about the intersection of these combined military exercises with what we feel is a spurious declaration by the UN’s World Health Organization (WHO) of a Level VI pandemic of H1N1 influenza.

We have reason to believe this could lead to mandated genocide via lethal mass vaccination of the American people and other peoples of the world, resulting in unprecedented profit for the international bank-based criminal syndicate that presently controls the UN, its WHO, and their client national governments, including that of the United States, as evidenced by the recent federally-mandated bank bailout and unaccountable corporate welfare imposed against the will of the American people and endangering the general welfare of our country.

Especially since members of the military, law enforcement and first responders are part of the population most at risk for such mandated vaccination programs, as well as being those most likely to have to enforce them, it is critical that you be alert to the activities of Homeland Security and FEMA which are federal agencies answerable to the WHO and the UN in the United States, under the International Partnership on Avian and Pandemic Influenza signed by President George W. Bush in November 2005.

This 2005 semi-secret international agreement renders the government of the United States and its relevant laws and statutes, as well as our Constitution and Bill of Rights, subservient to the authority of the United Nations and its World Health Organization.

Both the NorthCom counterterrorism exercises and Homeland Security/FEMA drills will be coordinated by the UN and the WHO respectively, possibly providing the international bank-based controllers of the WHO and UN with an opportunity to covertly take over our nation and eliminate most of the population of the United States by means of a federally-mandated program of lethal vaccination accompanied by one of federally-mandated detention for those exercising their constitutional right to refuse such vaccinations.

Below, please find several websites where you can find credible documentation of what we are saying here as well as evidence that vaccines always serve as disease igniters. Vaccines never inhibit or prevent disease. Precisely the opposite. This is a critical point that must be understood and dates back to the very first vaccine against smallpox. The mandatory vaccination program ignited a small pox pandemic killing hundreds of thousands in countries that previously had no smallpox.


We ask you to stand by the US Constitution, the American people, the rule of law, and, if necessary, to actively intervene if there are signs that FEMA and Homeland Security units following orders from the UN/WHO are misusing these combined military exercises to begin mass vaccinations and detentions. We are counting on you to stand up for what your country and for the Constitution and your people.

Thank you for your work in service to your country, and for your consideration.

Your fellow patriot,

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  1. quakergirl Says:
    July 26, 2009 at 12:36 am | Reply

Jane and friends
very good work- I ll give mine out locally.

  1. quakergirl Says:
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Vaccinations: Deadly Immunity
Robert F. Kennedy Jr. | This article is of particular relevance to the current debate on the H1N1 swine flu virus and plans by the WHO, The Obama Administration and Big Pharma to develop a swine flu vaccine.

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Because the Americans fear what is to come from this government- guns sales are up since beginning of the year- and especially the street cops are buying assault rifles before they are banned- and they dont intend to use them against the American people either-

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French medical Professor and Member of Parliament Bernard Debre has criticised WHO for exaggerating fears about the “swine flu”, saying the “swine flu” is a harmless ordinary flu, and much less dangerous even than the typical seasonal flu, in the Saturday edition of the French newspaper «Journal du Dimanche».


Debre said that the “swine flu” would stay a harmless flu and hospitals had started treating it with simple pain killers. To call the 800 cases reported so far in France a threat to anyone was a “joke”, he said.

Also, he accused WHO of issuing press communiques that ignited fear and panic, and of putting pressure on national governments to exaggerate the danger of the H1N1 flu and so react with draconian measures.

“From the moment, WHO, in a way that was a little too quick, began to gesticulate with daily communiques and press conferences which were constantly repeated, the governments didn’t have any other choice in reality but to follow [WHO’s commands]. I criticise [the national governments] in as a far as they succumbed to a “political hyper-medialisation” of this event, ” he said.

“A partir du moment où l’OMS a, de façon un peu rapide, commencé à gesticuler, avec des communiqués quotidiens et des conférences de presse à répétition, les gouvernements n’avaient pas vraiment d’autre choix que de suivre. Je leur reproche d’avoir ensuite succombé à une surmédiatisation politique de cet événement.”

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